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PSD
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Sep 25, 2003, 6:55 AM

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Anyone knows of any vet who is qualified and recognised by FCI to do hip xray and scoring?

If there are any vet's here to comment would be much appreciated. thanks

PSD

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Make sure my shepherd dog remains a working dog, for I have struggled all my life long for that aim ."

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PSD
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Sep 25, 2003, 7:54 PM

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Anyone?

PSD

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"Take this trouble for me:
Make sure my shepherd dog remains a working dog, for I have struggled all my life long for that aim ."

Rittmeister Capt. Max von Stephanitz (1864-1936)

boon
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Dec 27, 2003, 8:51 AM

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hehehhe, guessed u did that already right. Tongue

Boon - I Love Fast Dogs That Hit Hard
You Ask Me To Fight For You, I Give You Freedom & Protection And Then You Question The Manner In Which I Provide It, I'd Rather You Just Said -- "Thank You" --

PSD
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Dec 29, 2003, 9:39 PM

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Well Boon,

I'm actually still looking. Looking for a place where they can do scoring like those accepted by SV or OFA. Still cannot find. Nearest place is Singapore. Hopefully local vets can upgrade themselves, sure got good business one....lol

PSD

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"Take this trouble for me:
Make sure my shepherd dog remains a working dog, for I have struggled all my life long for that aim ."

Rittmeister Capt. Max von Stephanitz (1864-1936)

boon
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Dec 29, 2003, 9:49 PM

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Hahhaha yeah, good biz.

Boon - I Love Fast Dogs That Hit Hard
You Ask Me To Fight For You, I Give You Freedom & Protection And Then You Question The Manner In Which I Provide It, I'd Rather You Just Said -- "Thank You" --

nathalie
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Dec 29, 2003, 10:26 PM

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hi,

when my lab was suspected of having hd previously, the vet has referred me to a vet in KL to do the surgery but i'm not sure whether it's qualified or not. my fren's doberman went to KL as his doberman was having kneecap problems n he came back saying that the vets referred were not convincing thus he did not get the surgery done to his doberman....if u really want i can check out for u which vet is that.

PSD
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Dec 29, 2003, 10:36 PM

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Nat,

Thanks for the offer. If you happen to ask then just ask if they are qualified to rate hips under "OFA" or "Pen-Hip" scoring that is internationally recognised.

Those are something which is used to check for any possible genetic HD developing. Much of a tool for those people into high performance sports, Service dog or professional breeders.

Most vets just used the xray to confirm once the condition already develop symtoms prior to surgery, only a very minor handful really qualified to score the hips. thanks Smile

and let us know your findings.

PSD

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"Take this trouble for me:
Make sure my shepherd dog remains a working dog, for I have struggled all my life long for that aim ."

Rittmeister Capt. Max von Stephanitz (1864-1936)

nathalie
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Jan 9, 2004, 10:38 PM

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hi,

finally got an answer from the vet.

they recommended me to Dr Siva in Animal medical center and Dr Rashid or Dr Lokman in UPM Serdang

the have a vast experience of 15 years but without OFA. he told me that if i'm looking for a vet with OFA, i may have to go to Austarlia..coz recently there are none in S'pore.

hope it helps

Zoe
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Jan 13, 2004, 9:36 AM

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FYI, I never visited Dr S of Animal Medical Center anymore ever since Dr Prem Anand left to start up his own practice. Personally, I do not have an 'invigorating' experience with good Dr. S. AMC pricing is also a major factor for my shift.

Zoe is due for an X-ray with Dr. Prem. I'd rate Zoe to be 1/2 HD as I think she got one leg due to an accident at a young age, not genetic. Zoe is not even 2yrs old.

AFAIK, we have v poor vet support for HD in Msia. Surgery is done at UPM Serdang but this is just to relieve the pain by removing stuffs. Reason given is the cost of equipment needed to fix HD problems.

I'm still waiting for a vet who'll bring in such equipment and offer HD corrective surgery in Msia. Yes, I too was referred to vets in Australia.

If anyone here knows better, pray tell.

Kowpa
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Jan 13, 2004, 9:44 AM

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Is very very expensive to correct HD for a pair of socket joint cost thousands of $ US Better but a new dog rather than HD repair

nathalie
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Jan 13, 2004, 10:34 AM

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hi,

Kowpa is rite....i asked the vet n he told me that even if a corrective surgery is performed, it does not mean that ur dog is 100% cure...the surgery is done to alleviate the pain in future. he also told me that if u want to do it seriously..better prepare around 10K esp if u r doing it in Auz.

At the bright side, i have a fren who's lab just passed away recently at 13 also with HD but he died due 2 old age n not the HD. he was still living in good health n regardless to say can still walk n run. her secret

-proper food plus recommended supplements & mild excercise

To be honest, i'm not really convinced with both the recommended vets but the condition of my lab is improving, so as long as i keep her weight i hope she'll be fine. Smile

PSD
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Jan 13, 2004, 5:50 PM

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Zoe,

I'm sorry to hear of your dog. As much as we liked it to be, we have to face the fact that once HD happens, there is not a chance for a 100% cure. Is your dog able to walk normally without grimacing in pain? If he does then suplimentation with Glucosamine and Chondroitin will help. Add in the diet the soft raw bones and cartilage parts without cooking. Hopefully that will be able to sustain him. If however he is unable to walk at all.....then u have a very tough choice.

PSD

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"Take this trouble for me:
Make sure my shepherd dog remains a working dog, for I have struggled all my life long for that aim ."

Rittmeister Capt. Max von Stephanitz (1864-1936)

comel23
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Jan 13, 2004, 8:58 PM

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Zoe

My Rotti has HD and ED (elbow). When I was first informed by a vet, their recommendation was surgery and as you have said there is no quarantee.... I then went to get another opinion from a vet in UPM, and he is much more experienced, plus he gave me many many alternatives. Unfortunately he left a couple of months later for overseas and that was the last time I went to UPM. I did a lot of research, and fortunately I don't have to get her to surgery as I put her on supplements everyday and avoid any situations where she will be feeling the pain (after jumping and slipping). I also controlled her diet and maintain her weight. Alternatively when her HD is acting quite bad, I will give Cosequin for a month and maintain her afterwards with my other supplements.

She can be cranky though - I think she needs to go for aromatheraphy massage and pain management counselling...he...he.... Cool

However, she still gets lots of kisses and hugs from me everyday and I think that helps a lot. Sly

Cheers Everyone

"Love Your Dog and You'll Be Loved Unconditionally"

Zoe
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Jan 14, 2004, 10:40 AM

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Hi all,

Thanx for the concern.

I understand that surgery in Msia will just alleviate the pain and will still walk funny. And yes, ball-socket repair in Aust (the nearest place) is v costly. And no! 'Better to get another dog' is not an option.

Zoe is only showing HD symptoms on just one leg. Most probably due to a nasty accident when v tiny (6 wks old). She walks ducky but when she increases speed, she'll just jump slightly (as if to adjust her ball joint) and then trots like a normal dog. This is after taking supplements.

Yes, Zoe's on Glucosamine HCL (not sulphate) daily, since 6-mth old. We have like 3 yrs supply of it. No Cosequin tho (my vet carries it). Several brands, most with shark cartilage & sea cucumber. And we watch her weight real carefully. No rough play. Normal jumping up car back seats & sofa and climbing stairs once, twice a day. Before Glucosamine, she's reluctant to do all these.

She hasnt been x-rayed yet. I just dont see any point right now. What can the x-ray do except to confirm things which we've already assume and is taking action?

She still does bound around when out for walks but not too much - no leash, she'll rather correct her bad leg and trot along. I'll still carry her leash just in case a confrontation situation happens along.

We also carpet up some areas of the house and always play with her there.

We're still hoping that she'll recover her bad leg given time but we're prepared for if she doesnt.

Our regards to all.

surchinmy
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Jan 15, 2004, 10:16 PM

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Hello ...

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Understand and appreciate exactly what you mean by ... "get another dog is not an option" ... As long as the dog is not in constant or severe pain ... and as long has the disability does not prevent your dog from enjoying her life ...

I've heard of a product called "Sasha's Blend" from New Zealand ... formulated from green lipped mussel and shark cartilage ... Supposedly very effective and good for hips etc ...

If you are interested, I can try and get more infomation ...

If I may suggest ... you might consider doing the X-ray ... even if it's just for confirmation ...

First, you will confirm it's definitely a hip issue and nothing else. Sometimes, even with the closest of external observation, we can be mistaken ... Second, knowing the extent or severity of the problem ... will help determine the kind of precautions required ...

All the best ... Smile

(This post was edited by surchinmy on Jan 15, 2004, 10:21 PM)

Riccaval
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Jan 15, 2004, 11:04 PM

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Hi SK,

Your "Green Lipped Mussel" caught my eyes.
I was recommended by DR.G from UPM on the above but for different purposes.

Do you mind getting some infor on this. I'm suppose to get it for one of my boys but not for hip problems.

Thanks Smile

surchinmy
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Jan 15, 2004, 11:10 PM

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... sure thing ... will check up ... make some enquiries and email the info to you ...

Cheers

Riccaval
ALPHA

Jan 15, 2004, 11:20 PM

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thanks a heap

surchinmy
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Jan 16, 2004, 1:17 AM

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Check these out ...

http://www.sashasblend.com.au/usage.html

http://www.vetstop.com.au/Info/sasha.htm

Our breeder friends in Australia are using the supplement ... they seem to think its quite good ...

Cheers Smile

Riccaval
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Jan 16, 2004, 8:29 PM

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yup....they all say its good for the joint . Have you ever heard that it was good for fertility Crazy

.....that was what I was recommended....hmmmm

Cheers Cool

surchinmy
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Jan 17, 2004, 2:17 AM

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Hi ...

Have only heard of it being used to assist with skeletal issues ... not fertility ... But then, I generally don't pay much attention to breeding issues, so, maybe it didn't register with me ... Smile

...

Will ask around and see what I can dig up ...

Cheers

kasthuri
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Jul 17, 2004, 1:56 AM

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Hi

Was reading some of the old posts & saw yours abt your lab having HD - what did you finally do? Medication or surgery?

Mine has just been diagnosed with that too but early stages. Doc recommended synoquin - heard of it?

surchinmy
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Jul 18, 2004, 8:46 AM

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Hi ... Check your thread on Shedding Dog ...

Cheers

madmoz
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Apr 21, 2005, 5:38 AM

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And where is Dr Prem's practice?

Toy
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Apr 23, 2005, 8:37 AM

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If im not wrong Dr. Prem own a vet at Brickfield & he is 1 of the best vet.

chrisong
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Apr 27, 2005, 10:32 PM

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So far I visited many Vet and I can say he is the best.

coffee
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Apr 29, 2005, 1:25 AM

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Yes. There is one vet just came back from US who is qualified. The one who consulted comel.
But you need to know what is your purpose of getting the hipscore which is recognize by those organisation? Do you just want to find out. Are you a breeder? You want to export you dog to US and Europian country? What if the vet say you dog graded having HD. Are you going to neuter you dog?

In other country when the HD is detected, no breeding allow for that dog. It doesn't exist in Malaysia. Please tell me who is willing to neuter a RM20K imported stud when proved HD? I will salute that guys. The vets have been trying to clamp down on this (also some genetically carried skin problem) but hardly anyone will listen. And what you get is a lot of puppies with more problem. This is due to unethical breeding.

(This post was edited by coffee on Apr 29, 2005, 1:31 AM)

coffee
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Apr 29, 2005, 1:39 AM

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For HD, instead of treatment, it will be more approriate to call it management. There are conservative (medical) management and surgery management. Weight loss program, joint support supplement, pain killer, flooring, staircase...all these are conservative management. Surgical management can be corrective surgery to alleviate the pain, surgery to solve the problem (total hip replacement, TPO...) and also salvage surgery. Some of the case you need a combination of both to make it work. Your vet should be able to explain and advise you because it is different from case to case.

Do not give up hope.

JoeSmith
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May 11, 2005, 11:53 PM

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I am taking my dog to AMC - Dr. Siva. He is not the cheapest vet in MY but he is good and can properly evaluate the x-ray.

Treatment shows best result with cosequin (available there too) given on daily basis. Sorry, not cheap either.

Better product available from USA directly only and THAT is certainly not cheap to bring in.

Many more alternatives are available and all will bring the same result then corrective OP can do but those alternatives are less stressful and less painful for your dog and most likely cheaper too.

coffee
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May 12, 2005, 2:09 AM

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Cosequin is one of the joint support in the market. There are a lot of other product as well. Some are even better and cheaper. Synoquin, joint rescue, pet power... Basically you are looking for those containing glucosamine and condroitin. A lot of product only contain glucosamine, but condroitin is also somthing very important in joint cartilage and joint fluid. For glucosamine, go for glucosamine HCl instead of glucosamine sulfate.

JoeSmith
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May 13, 2005, 10:26 PM

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You are right. many alternative products on the market and we have to try out which one brings the best result for our dog.

Our dog responded best to a product from US, but this is not available in Malaysia and the american guy does not sell to Malaysia. We tried all other products but had the best results with cosequin. Synoquin is useful when taking the initial loading dosage thus cost nearly the same then cosequin and, lesser results - at least for our dog. Pet power and all the others are good when no serious conditions, e.g. score B- and better.

Toy
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May 15, 2005, 10:19 PM

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yah, i agree with u, many ppl been there & stick to tht vet.

JoeSmith
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Jun 2, 2005, 6:59 PM

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Hi, just found a way to get "flexicose" into the country and THAT is definitely one of the best products available.

Don't know who else has a dog with CHD and is willing to spend time and money to make his dog feel better. It would be nice to hear about and share information on how to handle and how to care for.

I'm still adjusting to the local conditions and the lack of considerations.

coffee
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Jun 3, 2005, 12:47 AM

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Be careful of "bringing in" product from oversea. For anything to be used, taken orally, applied external, you actually need a license for the product. You need to register the product especially those product fall under poison act. Otherwise the "bringing in" is actually considered smuggling and you are commiting crime. A lot of product you see in the petshop are brought in from Thailand and Singapore. No proper registration means smuggling. For example if you buy a superbike from Singapore, although it is half the price, many people will be hunting for you because it is smuggling. Income tax will chase you for the import duty, puspakom will be hunting for you, JPJ as well because no proper documentation like import duty, AP... Same for any of the product used in the market. Make sure the product is brought in through proper channel.

If you are using a product not registered, something happen to your dog, who is going to claim responsibility. You can't sue anyone because the product doesn't "exist" in Malaysia.

JoeSmith
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Jun 6, 2005, 7:46 PM

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YES, I know that. I have spoken to the custom department prior to importing the product and they were kind enough to help me in this case. I received a lot of good advise and help and I am very thankful for it. Certainly, I have to apply to the authorities if I plan to bring in more of this and/or if I plan to provide other dog owners with this amaizing product.

Riccaval
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Aug 11, 2005, 11:00 PM

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hi,

If a dog has an above average score when tested at 2 yo. Will it later developed into HD?

What are the chances of the pups inheriting such score if it was mated to a bitch of very low score?

Anybody?

JoeSmith
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Aug 15, 2005, 8:02 PM

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According to the purebred rules about mating dogs, it is not allowed to breed dogs with less then �C� score.

If the dam has low score then it is very likely that some of the pups will have a �C� from birth and that it will deteriorate with age, especially happen to larger or giant breed dogs. It would need a lot of attention to improve or stabilize the condition.If a dog of age 2 has an average score then it might need some simple attention to ensure that it will not deteriorate. Depends on breed, weight, size, food, environment and some luck.

Riccaval
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Aug 15, 2005, 8:52 PM

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Not sure about the 'alphabetical' scores.

What i know are the 'numerical' scores from 0-53.
the lower the score the better......high scores are BAD news.

however many oversea breeders are not fully convinced with this hip score thing. Some dogs got very low scores but has obvious hip problems while some got higher than average score but has produced low score progeny.
so I agree with you... alot depends on breed, weight, size, food, environment and some luck.

cheers Frown

JoeSmith
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Aug 16, 2005, 1:02 AM

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The official score card used by everyone is a slimmer version and uses just 5 groups from A to E. Whereby A & B could be used for breeding and C with some limitations.

I would guess that it is more difficult to find a qualified vet to do the score then to take care of a CHD dog.

If two good score dogs produce pups with hip problems then it might be either the submissive gene or most likely the food for the bitch. It is of utmost importance to the bitch to get the right food and sufficient supplementation.

In a trial run, the breeder used low score dogs to breed. He fed BARF diet plus Vitamin C supplements and produced healthy pups.Unfortunately, the issue is anything but easy or simple and extremely challenging to any serious breeder.

leecy
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Aug 24, 2005, 11:37 PM

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Joesmith

if we bring our dog to go through this Hip test, will we get any certificate or something which recognised by MKA? well i read an old book, published few ten years ago, state something like for AKC, they will include u in a list, so ppl who wish to search for a stud dog or wish to purchase a pup will prefer to choose urs, & this discourage breeders to breed those with bad scores.

Regards,

Yang

JoeSmith
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Aug 25, 2005, 12:51 AM

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When you would live in the USA then it would work this way. However, I never heard that this is practiced in Malaysia.

coffee
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Nov 6, 2005, 3:28 AM

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Just wait. Planning stage. There is different in terms of scoring hip or grading hip. Also alpahbetical or excellent/ good... It all depends on the country. Europe and US adopts a different scheme. Even in US different methods are used. One good example is PennHip which is patented.

Malaysia is still in the planning stage. Need to see which system is more suitable. Need a lot of corperation from the, breeders, vets and government. If you havea very good system and nobody follows it, waste of time. Vets and government can't prevent the breeder from breeding a rejected dog. It is the breeders' initiative to develop a fine breeding line. If money comes first in their mind,

maxsimkh
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Dec 10, 2005, 8:43 AM

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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,

GOOD NEWS! AFTERALL, MALAYSIAN VETS ARE NOT AS LOUSY AS MOST OF US THINK THEY ARE. CURRENTLY IN MALAYSIA, WE HAVE OUR VERY OWN VETERINARY RADIOLOGIST, WHICH IS RECOGNISED BY US AND EUROPE. AND HE IS THE ONLY ONE I KNOW IN MALAYSIA WHO IS QUALIFIED BOTH ACADEMICALLY AND EXPERIENCE TO DO HIP SCORING. HE IS NONE OTHER THAN DR. HENG HOCK GAN FROM UPM VET HOSPITAL. HE DO CONSULTANTION ON EVERY TUES AND THURS IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN. PLEASE DO CONSULT HIM FOR HIP SCORING AS HE IS THE ONLY ONE IN MALAYSIA THAT IS QUALIFIED TO DO THE PROCEDURE.

JoeSmith
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Dec 14, 2005, 12:02 AM

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Good to know. Thanks for sharing with us. Do you know which scoring system he is using?

leeeejoe
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May 23, 2008, 9:03 PM

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How much is the medicine/supplement that u're bringing in from the US??Cosequin and Synoquin is about RM300 per bottle..my GSD is very oversized at only less than 10 months old, eventhough from very fine bloodline with good hip scores, i'm worried and i'm willing to spend..to a certain limit of course..haha..please let me know..thanks
joe