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lisachew
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Oct 24, 2002, 7:23 AM

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Hello all

I am always thinking of places like highlands to bring my pet for a vacation. Something like Genting Highlands?? Cooling isnt it?

Well, we know that lots of hotels and apartments do not allowed dogs right? Anyone, here who had the experience in 'seludup'-ing them in?

Do really hope to bring him along though. To enjoy the view and also the cold weather up there. Cool
Regards
Lisa


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alicia
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Oct 24, 2002, 8:33 AM

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i took my two to Fraser's Hill. they really enjoyed it and the people didn't seem to mind too much. but we didn't stay overnight.

if you manage to organise something, i would really like to join, or at least have some infor so i can take the two monkey's again.
Alicia Ling Horsley


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kbs
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Oct 24, 2002, 8:26 PM

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Hi Lisa,

I had managed to bring snuffy up to an apartment before Genting twice during her puppyhood period. It was really not easy as I was all the time trying to avoid her being seen and could not get out of the apartment as she will start barking and crying.

She really enjoyed it especially the weather, other than playing and eating, she sleeps most of the time.

Regards,
KBS


lisachew
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Oct 25, 2002, 6:19 AM

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hie KBS

WOW!! you manage to do that? How long you and snufft stayed there?

Hahah I really thought of that before, but then my other half said that its better not as not easy to enjoy the outside entertainment when Teddy is around. So... Frown

Will bring him there for a day trip to enjoy the view and cooling air though! Cool
Regards
Lisa


"A dash of lion, several teaspoons of rabbit, a couple ounces of old Chinese men, a bit of a beggar, a tablespoon of monkey, one part baby seal, and a dash of teddy bear." - shih tzu



Pat
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Oct 25, 2002, 11:27 AM

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Hi Lisa,

my 13kg Kiki had gone on vacation to Penang and Cameron Highlands recently. I sneaked her twice into hotels (through the lobby, reception and into the common lift) and once into a challet. Don't ask me how as it was a long story. All I can say that both dog and owner must possess the sneaky character and skillful art of trespassing. My dog is extremely good in understanding us and she knew what she was doing. She is trained to hide under blanket and stay put while we handcarry her through the lobby, swimming pool , into the lift and up to the room. She is also trained not to bark when she is "illegally' boarding in the hotel. It is a stressful adventure and you can't go wrong at any stage- i.e. starting from the drive-in entrance of the resort guardhouse, your dog must start its hiding in the car (in our case we had an aero-back which opens up to the boot which she has access in hiding).

Judging from your dog size I would say it is "wet-wet water" to do it provided it doesn't bark. But I wouldn't do it again because it is too stressful for me, my husband and KIKI. She deserves to be treated as a legal immigrant and my subsequent trips was arranged legally, which was much more enjoyable, not to mention pricey!

Pat
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kbs
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Oct 27, 2002, 9:48 PM

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Hi Lisa,

Yes, I managed to bring snuffy up to my dad's apartment slightly before Gotong Jaya. Even then, it was really not easy as those are apartment where the management sublet the unit out as holiday resort and there is a reception area. I only managed to do it when snuffy was really young and small (when she was 2 months and 4 months old), where I could hide her into a big bag and quickly run up to the apartment when in the building.
We have another problem whenever we need to go out, which is we always wait till she is sound asleep before we able to get out and can never go out for long, as worry too much of her. I really hope that one day, we could bring our doggy anywhere we want without all those worries at all.

Regards,
KBS


kaerb
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Oct 31, 2002, 8:25 AM

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*sigh* ....isn't there a Hotel or place that we can bring the dogs legally??? Fr what I can see..anyone who haas actually gone on vacation with their dogs are actually "sufferring" Do we seriously have to play hide n seek with the hotel ppl? Aiiii....what a cruel world!! I am so tired of hiding my dogs...I am not ashamed of them, so why should I keep them fr sight just because a few "special" ppl don't like them. I stay in an apt...although the management has warned me several times that I can't bring dogs ..I still do it anyway, slap me with a law suit if they want. I mean it's like I feel if everyone just join hands and stand up for what they believe ...I believe the authorities or even the hoteliers or cafes or restaurants will relent.
That is just my point...not trying to spread propaganda ya.....


lisachew
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Oct 31, 2002, 8:33 AM

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sigh...so true so true.....and yet......
I am really cracking my brain on where should i bring TEddy for vacation or even a walk in the park without stirring any ... bla bla ... to that special ppl...

sigh sigh.................... luckily they hvnt band from TIDAK BOLEH MEMBELA ANJING DI 'M' Wink
Regards
Lisa


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kaerb
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Oct 31, 2002, 9:10 AM

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If they do that....I will PROTEST....probably will riot even...hehehe...It's so unfair..there are cats everywhere...and they are equally dirty isn't it? How come ppl just associate dogs with illness n unhygenic??? But go to mamaks, you see cats everywhere...and ppl are ok with it. Aiii...problem lar...not to say I am against cats or any other animal.but I think Dogs SUffer the most lar here...here cannot go, there cannot go...why SPCA or PAW or even MKA not doing anything abt it lar??? what's the point of having a dog but you have to constantly protect it and shield it from the rest of mankind in M???
So trouble...my poor dogs suffering lar...want to see grass n open field oso muz wait till late at night then can enjoy for awhile!!!!


lisachew
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Oct 31, 2002, 9:21 AM

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Of course they wont lar... i dun think so it is to that extreme!!

But really hope that they at least can consider in building a park or ...etc.. for dog lovers to bring their dogs for a walk Frown

If they do that, at least special ppl will avoid going there instead? It will be easier. THis will show they are more considerate to our canine friends Unsure

Small one also we wont mind huh??? Laugh
Regards
Lisa


"A dash of lion, several teaspoons of rabbit, a couple ounces of old Chinese men, a bit of a beggar, a tablespoon of monkey, one part baby seal, and a dash of teddy bear." - shih tzu



arthur
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Oct 31, 2002, 1:33 PM

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Hi Lisachiew,

I share your frustration in not being able to take our furkids out for a simple thing like a walk in the park without being penalised or sometimes shouted at. Vacations? We have to resort to play hide and seek! But living in Malaysia in a multi-racial,multi-cultural society, I guess this is something we have to work at or bear with.

Your suggestion to for the authorities to build a special purpose park for dogges is excellent. But I seriously doubt they will spend the taxpayers monies to do that. The closest thing we can hope for is for some generous towkay who is a doggie fan to donate such a park (to be run and maintained privately) for canine owners like us to enjoy..BUT this is naive and wishful thinking though. More likely we have to start a fund to build such a park ourselves. No one is going to help us but ourselves.

In the meantime, in my own way, I make it a point to ALWAYS clean up after my furkids ALL the time especially in public places. Keep our dogs on leashes at all times in public. Hopefully, this will help to drive home the message that not all dog owners are "tidak apa" attitude and we do NOT treat the area outside our homes as public toilets.

Forgive the ranting...Unsure

Rdgs Arthur


kaerb
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Oct 31, 2002, 7:55 PM

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I don't quite share your view in bearing with the current situation...Singapore is a mulit racial society..how come the parks, even the beaches are dog friendly..I brought my gramdma's dalmation there for a walk...everyone was ok with it..if special ppl comes along..they will just walk away or just behave normally. What I don't understand is that how can Malaysia hope to be a world class tourist attraction or achieve international recognition, if it can't be tolerant to dogs??? Sish...what is the world coming to?
I believe in saying what I think..so no offence to anyone or even the authorities. But Small ppl like us can't do anything..this I agree, but small ppl like us can make Big noise to the BIg ppl...so they can do something abt it. Look at what happened to the dog licence thingy...the public raised their objection thus the council had to revert the fees to it's original fee. And what about the 2 dog per hse ruling thingy???
It just goes to show that...a small voice is better than none...so we can either try to bug the Big guys or we keep quiet and play hide n seek all day.....


arthur
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Oct 31, 2002, 8:56 PM

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Hi Kaerb,

Singapore is a good example you have bought up. Even though they have a multi-racial, multi-cultural society like us, then major ethnic group is different.Guess this translate into an inherently more canine tolerant enviroment which filters down to the masses. Even then, I believe there is only one canine specific park (Bishan park or something like that) where dogs are encouraged.

You are right that the little people can have a say in a democratic society. Like I mentioned before, it is up to us to plead our case. One good case is in the Taman Rimba Kiara park. Originally, the signboard (put up by DBKL) mentioned that dogs are allowed in the park PROVIDED they are on-leash and the owners MUST clean up after their doggies. Seems fair enough which no responsible dog owner would object. If only ALL parks run by the respective municipal councils follow this lead. However, if not ALL parks, then like Lisachiew mentioned, then earmark some specific parks that are canine friendly.

Let me transfer my voting place to Subang Jaya and I will send a note to my MP. How about that?Sly

Rdgs Arthur


lisachew
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Nov 1, 2002, 4:26 AM

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Hi Author,

Sigh... I think the fact that this country is Islamic country although it is multi-racial,multi-cultural society, so it is really difficult for them to even consider to do as what we hope for our canine 'peng you'. CrazyUnsure sob sob

Your suggestion for the authorities to at least put the sign of canine is allowed as long as its on leash.. etc, it is really good. Maybe we can actually write a letter up to the STAR and complain or suggest about it?

Well, lets pray that our canine 'peng you' hv a brighter future in walking where ever they want!!! Laugh
Regards
Lisa


"A dash of lion, several teaspoons of rabbit, a couple ounces of old Chinese men, a bit of a beggar, a tablespoon of monkey, one part baby seal, and a dash of teddy bear." - shih tzu



kbs
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Nov 1, 2002, 4:56 AM

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Hi Arthur,

Very good suggestion, proposal of sign board at park to be all dogs must be on-leash and owners must clean up after the mess.

I would say that a lot of times, general dog's owner reputation is also being spoilt by a certain irresponsible dog-owners out there. There are still alot of irresponsible dog-owners that let their dog run loose from the house (the owners are not even with the dogs) whenever they want to, especially night time and that expose not only danger to the dog itself but as well to the other ppl around it and the authority should at the same time impose a rules on a heavy fine/penalty for irresponsible dog's owners that let their dog run loose without leash by purpose and not cleaning after their dog's mess at public places.

Regards,
KBS


lisachew
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Nov 1, 2002, 5:38 AM

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Talking about irresponsible dog owner who lets the dogs out in the night.

Previously, one of my neighbours always let their dogs loose. And stupidly the dog always come over to my place and argue with my dogs outside.

Its pretty irratating as it is very noisy and disturbing other neighbours too. Especially my next neighbour is malay. Sigh...luckily right now they control that dogs. If not....... Unsure
Regards
Lisa


"A dash of lion, several teaspoons of rabbit, a couple ounces of old Chinese men, a bit of a beggar, a tablespoon of monkey, one part baby seal, and a dash of teddy bear." - shih tzu



arthur
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Nov 1, 2002, 5:54 AM

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Hi Kbs and Lisachiew,

Thks for your replies. In regard to park signboards, guess we can bounce some ideas here in the forum. Plan A write in to DBKL / MPSJ / MPPJ to ask that dogs be allowed in their parks provided they are always on leash and owners clean up after their pets. Plan B is to be more specific and petition a particular park to be designated as a canine friendly park (Taman Rimba Kiara is an excellent candidate) Plan C is to enlist the help of our respective parent associations or clubs to write in to the authorities on this proposal.

Personally, I think Plan B and C in conjunction would do the trick, supported by a signature campaign. Sly

As for the irresponsible dog owners you've described, it becomes even more important for us to show a good example. There was a case in Japan where dogs were intially banned from this particular apartments. The dog owners started an aggressive campaign to promote good canine citizen manners ie. dogs always on leash in public areas, cleaning up after their pets (and in many cases after other people pets as well!) Eventually, the apartment committee relented and gave their official consent for dogs to be allowed in the apartments premises. Like our friend Kaerb says, power to the little people!Sly

Rdgs Arthur


snoopydog
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Nov 1, 2002, 12:58 PM

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Hello Arthur,

I am fully supportive of your ideas, especially Plan C. As a recognised association, I believe MKA has the necessary clout to bring the proposal to the relevant authorities. And yes....a parallel petition would lend credibility to the cause.


luckey
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Nov 1, 2002, 5:37 PM

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Who owns Padang Merbuk? That's a dog friendly park, no? Since MKA is sanctioned to use it, we could work with the to hold more doggy events and gatherings, including some more informal ones with smaller groups ? what do you tink?


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Nov 1, 2002, 6:01 PM

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MKA and the bird people share the rental of Padang Merbok from Petaling Garden ( If I am correct ). I guess anyone wish to hold doggie in PM will have to speak to MKA, prepare some proposal to them so that the committee can evaluate it and approve/reject them accordingly. This is a time consuming works


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luckey
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Nov 2, 2002, 10:22 AM

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oh i see... does anyone here know people on the committee of MKA? Are the committee mostly just conformation show people? I'm thinking there aren't enough doggy events in a year, although maybe i'm just impatient coz can't wait to do stuff with my doggy!Tongue but if we could have more obedience competitions, it might make more people train towards better standards in obedience and then also agility... at the moment, most people doing obedience lessons only want their dogs to be good citizens, but if they ahve many shows to go to where they can compete for higher honors, i am sure it would be a hit.

How many other activities do the hold apart from the regular all breed champs?


Khoobg
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Nov 2, 2002, 2:08 PM

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As a member of MKA, you can make any proposal for their consideration by submitting an official submission. All proposal made will be presented to committee for their consideration and approval /rejection during the regular committee meeting. As there will only be some 10 committee meetings in one year, decision do not come immediate.

To find out more on how to make some proposal to MKA, give a call to Mr. Michael Wan at .

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luckey
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Nov 2, 2002, 4:44 PM

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hey thanks... will also attend the show in Malacca to see what that's all about and also how MKA do things. Hey have you ever thought of getting more involved in MKA? Are you an active member?


Khoobg
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Nov 3, 2002, 4:05 PM

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I am an active members in the sense that I participate in obedience training and conformation show. Other than that, I do not think that I have must time for that Smile


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Nov 5, 2002, 5:40 AM

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Hi Arthur,

Plan C sound great. How about a few of us who are MKA subimit a joint proposal/suggestion to MKA to see if MKA can help talk to the relevant authorities to establish a dog friendly park.

Cheers.


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