hi.. :) just wanted to add in - i'm a breeder, i breed for show, and always ensure my pups go to good homes. there has been numerous times when my dad and i actually bought the pups backat a loss, when we find out the owners are mistreating it.
Indeed, Puppymills and ill-runned petshops are a bane..MKA cant do anythng to the puppymills because they're complying to the rules of MKA. besides, how do we classify the term 'mill'? there was a time when two of my bitches got pregnant, each with 10 pups!! having 20 pups and little sleep didnt make me a mill-owner. *grin* its up to the authorities (note - not MKA) to discover if owners aremistreating their dogs..so if you come across any shabby place, report it to the SPCA..hopefully soemthing will be done.
seeing the reply from your post, here is my 2 cent worth.
Having known that the rules is not good enough to deter the puppy mills and the is not doing anything about it then they are indirectly giving the puppy mills a helping hand.
By toeing the line, they - the puppymills gets to do what they want then what is the rules for ? looking nice in the books ?
Having 2 big bitches giving birth to 10 puppies and having 10 bitches who is giving birth to 20 puppies is 2 different stories. You have to get the clear.
In only HOPING something to be done by SPCA we might as well do something ourselves to deter this kind of things from happening. As everyone knows SPCA have limited resources. If everyone keep on only HOPING then I guess we'll all end up in Dreamland.
I hope you are not getting offended by me being frank here. Just my humble point of view.
how do we define it? Well, breeders who breed their bitches season after season. Not treating their dogs decently. Not giving them proper care. Caging them up 24/7..till their paws are bleeding.These dogs are not groomed and smell disgusting. Their teeth are so bad they rot at a young age. No love or attention whatsoever except for breeding time and feeding. guys..anymore to add?
No doubt MKA can't do anything at the moment and it would take a huge effort and quite a sum of money if they were to set a rule on the well-being of the dogs and check from time to time...
For now.....not sure if SPCA does anything abt backyard breeders.. ,-._,-. \/)"(\/ (_o_)
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yep you're..but i think if we report it, its better than nothing, right? besides,anyone remembers the malay mail coverage on the mistreated GSD? hopefully by highlighting, more people will be aware of it as well. perhaps with coverage, including that of MKA's opinions/contacts in it, people will be more aware of their options when it comes to buying a dog, and not just buy it from any tom,dick,or harry petshop/puppymill.
MINGLMY: oh no, not offended at all. :) you're right in many areas, but as i said, reporting and hoping,is better than hoping alone! yes you're right about the bitches giving birth.. its bad to breed a bitch non-stop, she should always be rested after each litter for one season.. sigh. but whattudu, these are the people who enter the dog world for profit's sake, and nothing else.
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heyaz, yes i do have a GSP, but she's an old retired lady now. *grin* she's living the life of nothing but eating, sleeping and maybe abit of scratching.
thanks, btw for the wishes. you saw my gsds? monsters, arent they. *laughs* my left arm was sore for a good 3 days after. but they're beaufitul, and loving, and its all worth it in the end! :)
I missed the best of breed for the pastoral group..
caught u and ur GSD during the BIS
Nah...
Hazel(dobe) was a rescued doggie..she has skin problems and permanent scars. She has a nice bloodine but..conformation not too good(too small). As for Kaizer(GSP) he's also rescued..we're fostering him...I hv to prove to dad that he is well behaved..I hv an important exam coming up in abt 9 days..so not much time to train him. He's learnt most of the hse rules and "sit".He's 6 mths old..but was caged up for 4mths.. As for my bullmastiff... he's conformation not good. He might hv the build..but muzzle's too long. And for Silky..she's a cocker mixed terrier. ,-._,-. \/)"(\/ (_o_)
There is also people who breed their own pet in order to sell their pups for money without knowing the health of the dog. This is so sad. I have friends who got/bought pups which got genetic diseases and its so sad to hear that this kind of genetic diseases can never be cured and the dog have to suffer through out his/her life due to some people's greed. This is what makes me angry...
If you are the one who is at the receiving end n got the pup I'm sure you would agree with what I have said too
agreeable !!!!!! let`s derogate who those just money face seller ! i was bamboozle twice , so..........foolish !!!! not because the $ . u should know when my love passed .
Hi .... I don't know the price of dogs as I don't sell dogs ... but if you're really interested, please email me at winnie_figinroc . I'll gif you the breeders' phone number ... I think he might have what you want ...
I beg to differ. Not every petshop selling pups from puppy mills ler. There are many people who breed their dogs and then bring to the petshop to sell it. I bought one of my dog from a petshop in ss2 and he grew up to be rather YOUNGnDANGEROUS and some more FIERCE like LION. For me, as long as the pup is healthy and does not have any physical defects and most importantly have a good temperent, I think enuf liao. A Dog is still a Dog where ever you buy it.
Then somebody posted about QUALITY DOGS get from the Star Classifieds. Well, again, I disagree. NOT all those advertisers are good breeders. heck some are not even breeders but just dog brokers. I bought my min pin from a broker in the star classifieds. Well, he is thin like pencil. Bought him from the reputable newspapers though
Well, wad can I say? It's Simply a dog eat dog world and I type very long cos I'm on leave today --------------------------------- ROMEOW!!!!!!!!!!
I'm a new member reading this forum because i would like to buy a Golden Retriever soon.I'm staying in Kajang and there's no pet store or breeders in that area.I've been going to Pets wonderland and The pet safari in Ikano to have a look.I was even introduce to go to a store in Sri Petaling called pet square. I was wondering can anyone tell me any of this place is good to buy my GR's pups? Please please help me...really in dilemma
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if u got money, then u can get from lor, he is in PJ. if not then u call up MKA and get a list of GR breeders. find also in star newspapers. also try the adoption forum here and see if anyone is giving away any dogs though most would be adult dogs. try also check out SPCA & PAWS. sometimes they do have pure breds there.
i've called up MKA and got the breeder's name and phone up,mostly they are selling about 200 above! they are more to show dogs....above my budget le also over my budget.hehehe thanks!
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well good market mah..try getting from malacca or penang, they are cheaper but make sure the temperament is good and as what u read in books k. normally they sell about RM1200. i think bestoc kennels in penang sell at RM1200 and today i saw newspaper someone selling GR puppies 6 weeks.
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agreeable !!!!!! let`s derogate who those just money face seller ! i was bamboozle twice , so..........foolish !!!! not because the $ . u should know when my love passed . 
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