Not all petshops are puppymills. I got my GR from a very responsible petshop owner who even refuse to sell pups which she does not believe to represent the breed well or not healthy.
I bought Billy from her during the Pet Expo. There were many other pet shops exhibiting there and they were selling some dogs which she has refused to sell for the breeders/owners.
I was chatting with her a few weeks after the Expo and she told to me of a couple of dogs which she has rejected but was sold by the other pet shops during the Expo. She took the time to explain the features of a couple of the pups which was too far out of the characteristics of their breed in her opinion.
I think you are misreading my messages. The petshop owner I went to only sells quality pups because she is responsible and wants to ensure her customers get value for their money instead of those prtshops in Petaling Street where the pups are not given the jabs and not in good condition !
Of course, the pups she is not selling should not be put to sleep. It is the responsibility of the pup owners to find these pups a good home. Maybe give them away for free or sell them at lower prices. Please read properly - no one says any pups should be put to sleep. A non pedigree dog makes as good a pet as a pedigree one. However, a mix breed should not be sold as a pure bred with a pure bred price because this is not ethical as many buyers are ignorant. More importantly, the pups sold must have their proper jabs and in good health to avoid the unfortunate incidents as those mentioned in this forum.
If anyone is planning on buying a pup from a breeder, please, please, please buy from someone who is recomended to you by a reliable source (eg. a member of puppy.com?) and don't just go get one from any breeder advertising in the newspapers, etc.
Ah Kow was bought from a breeder who said she was a 3 month old puppy. The person who bought her didn't know a thing about Min Pins and believed the breeder. He paid RM 1300 for her, no cert. After I adopted her and took her to the vet for her jabs, I found out from the vet that she is actually about 2 years older than what we thought her age was!
So please be extra careful when buying a new dog and don't forget to do lots of research!
i bought my pom from a breeder, without cert and around 1200 which was of Austarlian parents but when it has grown up, it's bigger and upon 2 washes, the legs which r supposed to be grey turned out to be white. but it is ok, cozzzzzzz as long as i love him it's ok. but a word of cautious ,,,beware of breeder too
Responsible good breeders only sell themselves so they can make sure the pup has the best home. They would never sell through a pet shop. No good breeder sells to pet stores. All pet store pups are poor quality with no knowledge of the health background and will most likely have genetic health problems.
Haf a few things that I need to check with you regardnig ur dobermann. Am actually asking this on behalf of my friend who happens to be looking for a dobermann. Please email me at cheryl_lsm@yahoo.com.
yeah, my cousin brother experienced the same thing. i heard it's common pet dogs in the pet shops. the vet said normally it's some kind of cough/fever virus which can be spread to another dog in a confined air-con room. one dog in that room got the virus, the rest kenah.
My cousin brother's G. Retriever (puppy) died when his whole lung was infected and was full of flam. the puppy was so cute......
i know which shop u mean (petaling street). i use 2 study somewhere around. its a real dirty place. u should think properly b4 u get the puppy...... tat shops got is nex 2 (or having) other animals shops.... & do u know tat some animals waste is poisoning? e.g. birds (tey got alot over there), mice/hamster, hmmmm.... wat else i wonder..... nex time u tot of getting a dogs, try 2 do some searching first.... if u really want 2 get from pet shop.... make sure tat shop only supply dogs.... or at least it should hav a really clean environment.... cosy...comfortable..... not smelly....& possibly wif aircond.. i'm sure when u were in tat petaling street shop, u should smell some terrible smell, mix-up from birds, cats, mice, hamster, iguana.... i never like tat shop anyway, i think she is torturing the animals.....
hi i agreed, some ppl just buy puppies from breeder & sell it out like a his own breeding dog (tho he's not breeding any dogs) i've own experience b4, my furkid gave birth 2 some pups last year, & sometime when tey r only 2weeks, a guy called us, asking 4 pups, got my phone from MKA.... i just got a bit suspicious after asking some question (he want 2 buy all my pups at a petshop price).... so i ask 4 his address sothat i can take alook at his place... amazingly he agreed....got 2 his place 1 day.... & u know wat i saw!!! a few types of pups, pack in some small cage, inside a small room, an papan-atap house, very, very hot in the afternoon (even me got sweat), & only 1 standing fan was on... i feel like punching him tat time... tere r amer.cocker spaniel, shizhu, pincher, pug, chi hua-hua,.... all feeling hot... after giving him the high price i want 4 my pups, & no discount (he is quite disappointed).... we (my bf) just rush out and 'chaw' .....if i stay longer, i'm goin 2 smash his place.... tat house is in ampang village...& he is staying somewhere else....
All pet store pups are poor quality with no knowledge of the health background and will most likely have genetic health problems.
Need some correction here, i think its not fair to use the word 'all' but some. Not all pet shop sell poor quality puppy. They do have good breeder selling away puppies to pet shop. A good breeder doesnt mean he breed 100% good puppy.A good breeder just have the higher chances to breed and take care of the littles whenever they borned. Breeders sometime needs to offload thier little too and they sometime have no choice but to sell it to pet shop. Pet shop are willing to buy all the little at one time and so it just depends on luck and your experience when you getting a new pup. So good luck. I got all my 5 puppies in pet shop and hopefully they all are healthy
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NO, NO GOOD breeder sells through a pet store. Good breeders ONLY sell themselves and want to know the buyers. They don't sell to just anyone. They care about where thier pups go. And they do the proper health screening and know the health issues in the close relative.
Actually, we should say no to puppy mills instead of pet shops cos if there's no puppy mills, there won't be so many unwanted and unhealthy dogs. I've known many ppl who sell dogs just for the sake of $$ and not considering all other circumstances.
Although so, I'm very glad to know a breeder.... whom I know for quite sometime already. Almost all my dogs are from him b'cos I believe him and he is very responsible. He'll do what's best for the dogs. He doesn't simply breed the way some ppl does... such as using unhealthy dogs or breeding mother with son or etc....
His price may be a bit high which can be negotiate but he's a breeder I can trust...
Sorry wrong topic, but I couldn't help but bring this up.
I just went to a web-site maintained by a PetShop in Jln Sultan (near PS Boutique). If I am not mistaken they are aware of this site. They have a new forum just like this (never saw it last time - few months ago). It looks like a rip off from puppy.com in layout - though much poorly maintained.
A move to counter the negative comments against PetShops in that area?
Anyway, I regret to say I bought my dog from them. Didn't know then it wasn't right. But there is this other question. If we don't buy from these PetShops what would they do to those puppies they can't sell?
You wrote: But there is this other question. If we don't buy from these PetShops what would they do to those puppies they can't sell?
Don't worry that petshops are going to suddenly start dumping puppies at the SPCA, PAWS or the marketplace ...
Petshops are not going to lose money that way ... and educating people to stop buying from petshops isn't going to happen overnight ...
Ideally, it is supposed to work this way ... ... if forums such as this - succeed in teaching people why it's not good (or sometimes even dangerous) to buy puppies from petshops ... then the unscrupulous pet shops will find it harder and harder to sell poorly bred puppies to unsuspecting customers ... when that happens, puppy mills and irresponsible breeders will lose their main retail outlets and be put out of business ... Hopefully, this ripple effect will drive away all those people who only breed to make money but don't really care about dogs ... and then only good responsible breeders will be left ...
Cheers ...
(This post was edited by surchinmy on Aug 28, 2003, 6:28 PM)
I absolutely agree! Spread the word, do not buy from Pet Shops, you will be encouraging puppy mills to run for profits. Visit this website, it will make people who breed indiscriminately and buy from pet shop think twice. Circulate it wide if you will. I cry when I see it and even my 8 yr old daughter cried for those abandoned and homeless animals. You have to turn on your PC volume to get the effect of the background song. www.itsmeowornever.org/homeless.html Dad to Robin, 2yr old German Shepherd staying in KL. Come visit Robin at < /mydogrobin>
Speaking of puppy mills- does not the or some AUTHORITY in KL have some authority in SHUTTING down puppy mills? The whole point of puppy mills is to get profit at a dog's life.
Getting a pup from a legal breeder is all nice and sunny- but how many pups in pet shops@pup mills have to suffer cos we all just tell each other NOT to go to this and that pet shop?
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