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llamasonic
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Apr 12, 2002, 5:59 AM

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Hello, I recently moved here from the US and will be getting my dog out of quarantine this weekend. I am curious what are the 'do's and don'ts' of having and keeping a dog in Malaysia. I am used to being able to take my dog just about anywhere I go, including outdoor restaurants. My dog is well behaved and stays seated under my chair, is non aggressive towards people and other animals.
I understand that Malays can't touch a dog (or a wet dog??) and I would like to be sensitive to this while at the same time being able to socialize my dog in his new Malaysian home. I would like to be able to take my dog out with me to get a morning Kopi-0 or rotia canai w/teh halia. I have lived in NYC and SF which are both about the most dog friendly places in the US - I don't mind pushing the limits of where I can and can't take him as well since people will prob figure I am white and don't know any better :) The nicest place around where I live is a Malay graveyard however I think this would be in bad taste, so I won't be going for any long walks with my dog there.. There is a chinese shop up where I live that has tons of off leash dogs at night, all around. Some have tags, some don't. I am assuming that a place like this is OK. How about the KTM ? Taxis ? (no car here yet) .. OK, thanks in advance for any replies :)


Andrew
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Apr 14, 2002, 3:11 PM

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  Well I don't think that pets like cats and dogs are allowed at KTM or any public transport.

You still can bring your dog to place like Pasar Malam, some chinese coffee shop where you can get some Kopi-O and toast there. In M'sia public place like Shopping Mall, dogs and cats are allowed to step their paws in. Unlike in Europe country and also States, as I understand ( correct me if i'm wrong) that owner of dogs and cats can bring their pet to anywhere they like including in the public transport and even shopping mall.

Another not preferable place to bring your dog to is some place you called "Mamak Stall". This is because the people that are running the business might be Muslims too.

One thing if you bring your dog out, be careful that your dog doesn't lick or touch any Malay people if they pass by because of their religion thing. But my Malay friend told me that as long as the dog is not wet, they can touch it or not to be lick by the dog. Anyway they still prefer not to touch the dog. But most my Malay friends doesn't care about it.

Lastly, the point is if the place has mainly not Malay people, you can bring your dog there. And bare in mind dogs are NOT allowed in public transport at all.

Andrew Wong
Miniature Pinscher, Born 22.12.2000


atom
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Apr 17, 2002, 7:51 PM

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HI !! Even though the recreation park are not allowed Dogs also...

Li Mee. Mad


jason
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Apr 26, 2002, 7:18 AM

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It's just a matter of respect to orther races of this country. You are Malaysian and I think you should be sensitive enough to handle it.

Regards

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largo
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Jun 5, 2002, 8:03 AM

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Hi llamasonic, I am currently in the US. I was looking at places to take dogs for a walk in KL. I just can't imagine how difficult it is to take dogs around KL. Please give me some info on which parks to go and which areas to walk the dog without getting fined, be complained or even arrested?!?!? I am sure you have a good idea about the situation now that you've been there with your dog for a couple of months and could give me a good comparison as you are from the US and know how dog-friendly in most parts it is here. My friend in KL said it's very difficult. To have a pet there, do you need a pet licence?? What other documentions are necessary in case you get called by the animal control person or the cops?? Are there any pet-friendly apartments/condo in KL?? Where (as in residential) can you legally have a dog?? Is it too difficult to give the dog a walk everyday before and after work hours in the nearby neighborhood?? Any information is greatly appreciated!! Looking forward to hearing back from you and Thanks in advance!!


lilK
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Jun 5, 2002, 1:02 PM

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ya hi...
there are some dog frenly apartments and condo here in malaysia...
for eg..
my place here...
theres dogs almost in every blocks..
coz in the morning and evening u get to see owners bring their puppy and dogs out for a walk n stuff.....
so u jus gotta ask around...n preferable not to stay near muslim..
as they doesnt really like dogs...
so all the best to u ya...with ya dog! Wink


llamasonic
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Jun 6, 2002, 3:04 PM

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Heya :) I have not yet tried to take my dog into KL town. It is hard enough walking around here without getting hit by a car myself. I can't imagine walking a dog in town. Malaysia has to be the most pedestrian unfriendly country in the World ! There must be 50 feet of sidewalk in the whole of KL and you had better be careful you don't fall into a drain, have your foot caught on some rusty wire, or fall off of a 3 foot curb that's slicker than a greasy pan when it is wet.

My suggestion is to get away from KL if you want to keep a dog, find a residential area. I am in an apartment, but my landlord does not mind the dog and my neighbors don't complain. I take my dog for walks in the morning to avoid cars and kamikaze's on motorcycles. I'll also take him up to Chinese or Indian shops at night for dinner. This is a dog unfriendly place, but I imagine there are worse places..
I would suggest renting a house just outside KL. This depends on your budget, but you can rent a totally decent place for 700-1000 RM somewhere like Bandar Sri Damansara (just an example, many other places in this range- 15 minutes out of KL. Not the nicest, not the worst place. But staying in downtown KL is out of the question unless you have tons of money to throwdown on a rental in Ampang (7500 per month for a house) or similar places.

You do need a pet liscense, the cops won't bother you about your pet unless a neighbor complains, at that it will still take a few months for them to respond. Cops are too busy taking bribes for traffic offenders to be bothered with your pet :) Not Kidding, police here make more in a day taking cash than they do in a months wages. I have had a bad day in Malaysia today, my post might reflect this mood ;) I like it though - Kind of like Mexico mixed with Chinatown filled with mosques.. if you can imagine that.

Warning, little kids here might try to kick your dog, and their parents will think their kids are being 'so cute lah' as they try to kick your 'dog dog'. Just kick the kids back if they happen to get your dog. Just mentioning this because it keeps happening to me and my dog.. They act as if they are power rangers and your dog is the enemy.. So keep an eye on your dog if kids are around.

Let me know if you have any other quesitons or if I can help out.

:)


lilK
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Jun 6, 2002, 9:06 PM

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my dear fren....
malaysia isnt tat bad as u think....
maybe ur place gave this impression..
but over here in my place...old klang road....
ppl here are dog frenly....
kids will play with neighbours dogs in the evening....
and those furballs do enjoy their companies very much...


Derrickok
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Jun 7, 2002, 2:56 AM

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Hey You Orang Puteh or Mat Salleh. Born in 1972 at Walnut Creek California does not give you that extra privilege to intimidate, insinuate and insult Malaysia and its citizens.
In the first place, were you invited?
Never ever you dare to post another article of this nature in this forum or I shall stick you in the shit.
For your information, your post has been downloaded, printed and in due course it shall be handed to the corps for them to verify that even foreigners like you have noticed they are busy taking bribes.
You got an opinion? Keep it to your F*#%..g self or don't like Malaysia? piss off back to California.


llamasonic
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Jun 7, 2002, 4:45 AM

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Derrickok - I did not say anything intimidating, as far as insulting, if the truth hurts I can't help that. I like Malaysia and it's people. I think the country is in the stone ages when it comes to how animals should be treated. I have seen many dogs abused in public, left in undersized cages in the hottest of weather and tormented by childeren. You can't be here for any amount of time and not see it yourself.

If something I mentioned is untrue, please point it out. The post was made to a fellow American who wanted to know my thoughts after having a dog here a few months. I gave them. Rather than make threats to me, why not try to do little things to make change within your own community ? For instance if you see kids or anyone else kick a dog, wild or not.. please tell them not to and that that is unacceptable behaviour.

If you see somone walking their dog on a string with a branch to whack the dog with, ask them why they won't spend for a leash and collar instead of hitting their dog. If you see a dog that is always in a crate and going bonkers, ring the doorbell and ask the owners why they got a dog in the 1st place ? The next time a policeman asks you for cash tell him to go to hell and pay the normal fine instead or perpetuating this corruption which runs deep and thick in Malaysian society. If the police take kickbacks, it must be OK for everyone to right ?

Kids are not born cruel, they have to learn it.

I will post whatever I want (within the rules of the site) & you have the right to say whatever you want in response.


PyRoMaNiAc
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Jun 7, 2002, 6:44 PM

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Whoa! Time out! Chill!

Malaysia is a dog-friendly place. But I do admit that we are not AS dog-friendly as other countries. Many reasons contribute to this (you've already mentioned a few, including this being a Malay country). To my knowledge, dogs aren't allowed in shopping centres or on public transport.

K.L. is not that bad a place. I've lived in about 3 places in K.L (my family moved around a lot Smile), and in all of those locations, I never had a problem walking my dog around the neighbourhood.

-= Tisha =-


Derrickok
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Jun 8, 2002, 3:50 AM

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llamasonic or Anthony,
Point your finger to a country that is without animal cruelty? America, Canada or any of the White Colonies?
There is no denying that Malaysia is way behind with animal care. ( I am not just referring to dogs only, I am saying animals in all categories ). But here again what is acceptable by others may not be tolerable to you depending on the level of thinking of those responsible for such action.
You haven't been here long enough to justify your remarks. The trouble with your nationality is you thought you are all god almighty. You came, you saw and you wanted an immediate change to suit your mentality.
Furthermore, its your attitude that is causing your downfall. Change it and I'll show you where your dog can go to Mcdonald, KFC and all the shopping Malls.
I am extending you a hand of friendship, the ball is in your court.
Just remember one thing; When in Rome do as the Romans do.


cdmoo
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Jun 8, 2002, 5:10 AM

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Good one Uncle Derrick! Wink
And I will show them where to take ur dogs for a swim!
Cool

Sly

Smile
regards,

CD Moo





hclai
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Jul 2, 2002, 6:35 AM

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Well, this is the culture in this country, the place where i live is mostly malay, and they even poison the dogs. But, again....this was 10 yrs back story, when the malay still stay in the kampong. Nowadays , ur dogs only get poison by indonesian, cause they wante to break into ur house. U can expect the culture of malaysia like america. Ur dog in malaysia is definitely safe, except not much places for u to bring him/she to a park only, anyhow u still can bring her along for a walk in ur housing area, if u r staying in a chinese garden area. If u go to china, it is even worst, they steal ur dog and they eat ur dog. so, what do u so???? just adapt to the culture and this type of things need time to change. compare to 30/40 yrs ago. Not much ppl can afford to own a pedigree dog as a pet. but, nowadays the pedigree dog owner is increasing. so, give m'sia some time to change their mind set.

ppl in our contry is not rich enough(majority) , with the impact of economic crisis, who really care about the wellfare of the animal much. This also hav to thanx to ur fellow frens from the states (Soros), if we are all here rich enough, we will think of this thing. like setting out a park for dog & cats, swimming pool for ur pet, hunting ground. So, get what i mean????


From,
Truly a malaysian that love to socialise with ppl around the world.


les
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Jul 2, 2002, 8:39 AM

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Wow..! where I can bring Sunny to Mc Donalds and KFC? WOWWWW.. can go swimming pool with Sunny? REalllYYyyyYY?? Where? Where? Where??????

*~Sunny Macho, My lil puggy~*
Laugh -Born 15th March, 2002-
Laugh

Copied this frm ahming, touch huh?
"Please don't cry in front of my grave,

I don't mind if you keep a new dog.

I won't angry if you give my toys to others dog,

I will be happy if other dogs can enjoy your love as me."


Derrickok
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Jul 2, 2002, 1:58 PM

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 Right in Subang Jaya.


les
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Jul 2, 2002, 6:30 PM

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Subang got lotsa McDonalds wor.. which one izit? Or.. Subang got swimming pool meh? I don't know leh...

*~Sunny Macho, My lil puggy~*
Laugh -Born 15th March, 2002-
Laugh

Copied this frm ahming, touch huh?
"Please don't cry in front of my grave,

I don't mind if you keep a new dog.

I won't angry if you give my toys to others dog,

I will be happy if other dogs can enjoy your love as me."


evehock
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Jul 3, 2002, 5:15 PM

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Hehehe...

Les, I only read that Cdmoo can show you where you can bring your dog to swim......but did not mention anything about swiming pool... I guess is the place you can bring your dog to swim is stream, river or beach lar...Tongue... LOL

Eve




HWONG
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Jul 3, 2002, 7:12 PM

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I swore I would never post here again but this one is the mother of all ill tempered and irrational reactions from you that I ve ever seen in this forum and I couldnt resist. You have outdone your self this time Derrick. You snap at everything that you dislike or anyone who dare to disagree with you and rule over this forum like it is your own. Using vulgarities in the forum goes against all decencies. If you feel the chap has an incorrect impression of the situation, educate him. Snap at him he snaps right back. You are an old hand in this hobby and it is a good thing you are doing; sharing your experience. You can contribute much more by being humble and composed. You will gain the respect that you deserve. Among the forum participants are many young ones who look up to you. Relax Derrick, under that mean disposition of yours is a nice guy who really loves his hobby and sincerely wants to share his knowledge. A friendlier environment will invite more participants and this forum would have served its intended purpose. Reflect not react...


Derrickok
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Jul 3, 2002, 8:29 PM

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I don't think any member here knows who is this person called himself HWONG.
You don't like it that is too bad. You find it distateful, return to The Isle of Elba.
There are lots and lots of posts in this forum I bet you were tempted to reply but either you lack the courage or the knowledge and perhaps both.
If you think I am going to entertain you, you are very wrong, because I have better things to do.
My final word is you are truly a Yabadabadooo!!!!


hclai
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Jul 3, 2002, 10:30 PM

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GOOD!!!!, u two go ahead and fight, let the outsider look at it and laugh, that this is a truly "MALAYSIAN CULTURE". Uncle derric, do u know all the register user in this forum?????? i bet u dunno all of them, some ppl just like to read the forum and then post the topic whenever they feel like it, they are not the frequent to summit or write in the forum, doesn't mean that they are not active in this forum...

If Hwong hav no courage he would not voice out his opinion against u since u r some sort like the master in this puppy.com.my forum(maybe like ur title as aconsultant). No doubt, u r very good with ur knowledge in dogs and u hav make malaysian proud cause ur dalmatian(local breed one) can get champion and beat the others oversea competitor. Again, where is ur profesionallism as a consultant in this forum.

If u can complaint about a trainer giving bad comments(which u think is a bad comment) to a dog in one of the training session, & said that they are proffesional and should hav good attitude and proffesionallism. In this case, where is urs. U dun seem to be able to accept other ppl critics...& u always think that u r right. come on, uncle derric...u r old enough to understand what is respect to the other. U dun need me to tell u all this thing.

If u can ask Hwong( i dunno him at all), to go back to Isle of Elba, then i will ask u to balik Tongsan. Keep ur old style away and dun always think that u r right all the time. ( yes, u r good with ur dog knowledge) but , the way u present urself is too action and dictative.

If Hwong is from Yabadabadoo(stone age) , i think u r not even a human being yet, u r like a monkey, dunno how to respect ppl. No matter how good is ur dog knowledge, u gain no respect even ur dog can win multi champion n get multi trophy....so, what is ur trophy in life that u get. Do u get respect , a truly respect from ppl from the bottom of their heart that u r a wise man with knowledge and humble.

U r a chinese, u should know what is "Man zao shun, qian so yik" , maybe i can remind u again..it means action/lansi will only bring harmfulness, humble will bring good need.

u r talking about courage, i show u my courage here! I voice out my opinion. If u r talking about dog, i can't beat u right now, If u r talking about getting respect and give respect to ppl, i can beat u anytime.

If anyone feel that what i said is TRULY wrong, u r all welcome to give me a feedback, i will accept all the good/bad critics.

The problem with m'sian is, not they dun hav the courage to voice out. Is just that the culture of asian or chinese they dun feel like complainting or voice out n always think "why should i say so much, is non of my business" let other ppl talk and we see. This doesn't mean that they dun hav the enough knowledge that u hav. remember, u r not the only one out there who is good.

U always say that u hav better things to do, actually what kind of better things to do???. Let me guess, communicate with ur dalmatian, thinking of how to fight back when ppl critics u instead of accept or reply in good manner. If u really hav better things to do, u will not be so pa liar and engage in this type of forum fight. Take more time and communicate with different type of ppl, dun just talk to ur dalmatian.


joonkeet
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Jul 4, 2002, 3:11 AM

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WONG & LAI,Wink

What I can say is I guess that's what happened to those newbies who got scared a way. FrownIt is not that they came and post something and just went off. But I guess it is because the consultancy here is not friendly enough huh and also with those critism and debate that make them afraid to post anything but just view whatever is it in here?Crazy

Well, maybe not all Malaysia has that MALAYSIAN CULTURE thingy. hehe... GUess that it still happened in here often. Mad

Maybe those members that are still active around here just mine their own business as they still need the consultancy around? WELL, WE KNOW WHO IS THE ONE THAT HAS PROBLEM AROUND HERE HUH?Cool

Really hope from this debate we learn something eh? Laugh

GOOD LUCK WinkTongue

Please dun get me wrong on trying to side anyone here. I just wish that this forum can stay friendly and helpful forever. Laugh

Regards
Joseph

Consult a vet. Be kind to pet


Derrickok
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Jul 4, 2002, 3:30 AM

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To continue with this topic serves no purpose.
You are only one month old, have you taken the trouble to go through the thousands of posts in this forum? Perhaps you should.
I am sure you know who is Napoleon Bonaparte, may be not. After the Battle of Waterloo, he was exiled to The Isle of Elba. and Yabadabadooo is the signature tune of Flintstone. The function of a flint stone is to cause sparks - commonly known as a shit stirrer -
Your message is as blurred as I wish to understand. Why don't you post another in proper English, with good grammar and perhaps without misspelt?
What better things I have to do is none of your concern. By the way, your introduction, you can not even do it proper.


Khoobg
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Jul 4, 2002, 4:04 AM

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Correction Derrrick. HWONG is a regular to my the other forum at www.koi.com.my and active contributor there. HWONG has a point and it is definitely very important to maintain a very friendly atmosphere so that more can participate without having to worry about being attack by someone.

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Derrickok
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Jul 4, 2002, 6:00 AM

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Mr. Webmaster,
Nobody is being unfriendly. Least of all why should I be. Post No.7 d/d 6/6 triggered it off with devastating consequences. Then in Post No.12 d/d 8/6 I made a fair and square statement.
We all have a point and it is up to the members to view the forum thoroughly post by post to come to a decision.
An active contributor in one forum may not necssarily be an asset in another. This is my humble opinion.

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