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elizatye
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Oct 30, 2002, 8:35 AM

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Hi,



I owned a puppy, M Shcnauzer. I brought him home 3 months ago. I’m very headache with his hairy ear hole and his messy hair Crazy, especially the hair near his mouth and eyes. Even after combed his hair, a short while, the hair became disheveled again. Can anyone give me a simple advice how to groom a M Schnauzer. Many people advised me to bring him to dog saloon to clip his hair. Should I do so, or can I clip him myself?



I used to clean his ear hole using a cotton bar, and I suspected the cotton was stuck inside his ear hole. I brought him to veterinarian and the doctor told me that there is nothing inside his ear hole. But now his is just keep scratching his ear. What can I do ah .. (I have clean his ear hole every time after I bathing him). I'm very worry lah ……...





Blush a pity dog owner


cdmoo
ALPHA


Oct 30, 2002, 8:51 AM

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hi elizatype,

welcome to the forum!

i believe there r some members specializing in grooming and/or MS will come to your rescue Wink

meanwhile, appreacite if would u like to tell us a bit more abt yourself in the "Member's Introduction"?

have fun!

Smile
regards,

CD Moo





boon
Doggyman


Oct 30, 2002, 9:14 AM

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Hi ElizaTye

Welcome to the forum, greeting from Penang. FYI, Arthur own few MS, he may be able to helo you.

Boon - I Love Fast Dogs That Hit Hard
You Ask Me To Fight For You, I Give You Freedom & Protection And Then You Question The Manner In Which I Provide It, I'd Rather You Just Said -- "Thank You" --


wkser
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Oct 30, 2002, 10:13 AM

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hi,
welcome to the forum......you can chat with arthur he own three schnauzer........SmileWink

regards
kangser and nous


elizatye
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Oct 30, 2002, 11:31 AM

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Eager in questioning and forget to say hello first........

Wink Hello, friends, I am a new user, eliza, from Penang. An owner of a M Schnauzer, an active, sweet, cute, greedy, 'handsome', lovely puppy.

Thanks for your replies. Hello, Arthur, Arthur, waiting for you ah ..... PLEASE .... I'll very appreciated if you can spend some time to answering my question.


Eliza


boon
Doggyman


Oct 30, 2002, 11:46 AM

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hi Eliza,

oh u r from penang, which part of the island, r u planning to bring ur pup for MKA training, Ginl (a JRT owner, is a she) and myself are attending the training session every sunday 10 to 11:00 Am at japanese gardern in greenland.

Near the Peng Aun vet there.

Boon - I Love Fast Dogs That Hit Hard
You Ask Me To Fight For You, I Give You Freedom & Protection And Then You Question The Manner In Which I Provide It, I'd Rather You Just Said -- "Thank You" --


elizatye
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Oct 30, 2002, 11:58 AM

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Hi, Boon,

Yes, i've attended the training course, started three weeks already ... May be you'll know me..... my puppy is the only MS in the course. I'm joining the junior session. How about you ? What's the type of your puppy ? May be I know you....


boon
Doggyman


Oct 30, 2002, 12:02 PM

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Hi,

Oh yeah, my one is a labrador, the yellow labrador, the hyper active one... last week was Bonney's first lesson to basic obedience class. In the same class she and other 2 more labbie also. One of them is her sibling.

Boon - I Love Fast Dogs That Hit Hard
You Ask Me To Fight For You, I Give You Freedom & Protection And Then You Question The Manner In Which I Provide It, I'd Rather You Just Said -- "Thank You" --


ginl
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Oct 30, 2002, 3:11 PM

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Hey Eliza,

Welcome to the forum! Wah so you also attend the Sunday class eh....sorry aarr not sure which MS is yours coz i've seen a few of them but mostly they belong to ppl just bringing their dogs to look see look see and sometimes both trainers also bring their MS for a visit....glad u found this site...hopefully you'll get the answers you're looking for Smile

You can also check with Shan or Ms Yeoh on MS tips....both of them are owners of the breed as well.


(This post was edited by ginl on Oct 30, 2002, 3:14 PM)


arthur
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Oct 30, 2002, 4:50 PM

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Hi Eliza,

I have answered your initial question in another thread. Good thing you started this thread which is more to the point. We will keep our discussion here ok?

I understand you have a 3 month old male puppy. There are several ways you can approach to groom your schnauzer. If you decide to keep it as a pet, then you can go for the pet grooming which is basically using an electric clipper (with a #10 blade) to clip away the body hair. The legs furnishing, body fringe and of course the trademark eyebrows and beard should NOT be clipped away or else you wont end up with a schnauzer!

If you decide to show your puppy at the dog championship show, then do NOT clip anything. You will have the adopt the coat plucking/hand stripping method. It is best to start plucking the coat at about 4mths onwards. Plucking away the body hair in the same pattern as electric clipping described above will encourage the growth of the wiry outer coat so necessary for show dogs. Hand plucking the schnauzer coat is part art, part science.

So my tip is this..For Pet coat, take it to an experienced groomer who knows how to groom schnauzers. Ask around for recommendations, demand to see the photos of their work. I have heard too many horror stories from fellow schnauzer owners who literally screamed when they saw their schnauzers after the so called "grooming". Them eyebrows and muzzle whiskers (that are the trademark of schnauzers) takes a LONG time to grow back. After this initial grooming by the professional, you can then attempt to maintain this look yourself. We can discuss this later. Price for a pet schnauzer grooming session here in KL/PJ varies from RM60-RM120. This usually includes a bath, grooming, nail clipping, ear cleaning and hair plucking (The insides of a schnauzer's ear must be shaved bare and plucked cleaned)

Should you decide to show your dog, then ask around for groomers that know how to pluck/hand strip a schnauzer coat. This is the more time consuming and expensive approach as it involves several sessions (typically 4-5 weeks) However, the results are definetly worth it especially if your puppy is genetically blessed with a hard wiry coat. Maintaining this show coat requires time and dedication from your end. Typically, you will have to "roll" the coat every 2 weeks. There are lots of websites out there that shows this process beautifully. If you are interested, let me know. Smile

Rdgs Arthur


arthur
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Oct 31, 2002, 4:29 AM

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Hi Eliza,

Do check out the American Miniature Schnauzer Club website. It has excellent references to pet grooming. Also very informative is the illustrated slide show on the Miniature Schnauzer AKC breed standard. Point your browser to http://amsc.us/index.html

Hope the above info helps.

Rdgs Arthur


lisachew
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Oct 31, 2002, 4:35 AM

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Hello

I am not sure whether hv you heard of the way to clean dog's ears by using alcohol?

Well, I heard of this way before and only recently I got the information on what type of this alcohol liquid that we can use to clean ears.

Alcohol topical type : isopropyl 70%

It helps in cleaning the ears and also kills the mites. Just drop a few drops in the ears and massage it. You can use a cotton bud to clean it too.

If there is any side effect that you know of (anyone??? ) pls share with me.

Thanks
Regards
Lisa


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arthur
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Oct 31, 2002, 5:41 AM

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Hi Lisachew,

Isoprophyl alcohol is also known as rubbing alcohol in the sports world. In the aviation industry where I work, we also use this to clean our electrical connectors. Pretty good stuff as it evaporates away without leaving much residue. Besides alcohol acts like an antibacterial sterilising agent. So it can be used as an ear cleaning solution. No side effects that I know of.

Rdgs Arthur


elizatye
K9 Senior


Oct 31, 2002, 7:35 PM

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Hi, Arthur,

I would like to say thanks first. The info from you is very useful for me. At this moment, I' think it's better for me to look for an experienced groomer, before I know more about how to groom a schnauzer. My puppy likes to play around at the small garden at the back of my house. After he enjoyed this wonderful moment, his body is full of dry leaves and covered with dusts. Some more his coat is quite thick. So, what I have to do now is to clip his thick coat away for easy cleaning. I understand that it is not easy to learn and very challenging, but I still very interested in grooming my cutie baby myself. May I know how long you spend to learn how to groom your schnauzers? For the grooming tools you mentioned, can we find it at any pet shop? Is it necessary to having all for grooming a schnauzer?

From the Magazine and TV, we can see that most of the schnauzer, their eyebrows and muzzle whiskers are really long, as you said, their trademark. But for my cutie baby … of cause, if compare with some other breeds, it's long, but if compare with the same breed, I think it's not long enough … is it because he is still YOUNG … (his is now 6 months old) …. Will it grow some more? One of the reasons why I mad with schnauzer is this special trademark. Ha ~~~ how if this wonderful trademark lost after back from grooming, ah ah ah …. I really cannot accept lah …… NIGHTMARE

I advised by MS Yeoh, our trainer, we have to clean our puppy's ear. What we can do is plucking the hair on his ear hole, I've tried, but he seems uncomfortable and ran away, it is due to pained.

Arthur, I think there are still many to learn from you about the schnauzer.

Thanks a lot.


elizatye
K9 Senior


Oct 31, 2002, 7:39 PM

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Hi boon,

Very sorry, there are too many new puppies joined the class last Sunday, especially labradors. But, I think it is not difficult to know you and your puppy, Bonney, in the class. I think we could know each other on this coming Sunday … um … this Sunday is off ……. next Sunday ….. Hope to see you then.


elizatye
K9 Senior


Oct 31, 2002, 7:44 PM

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Hi, ginl. Yes, I joined the basic class. There is only one schnauzer in the class last Sunday. Ya, he is my loved puppy, Yippi. How about you and your puppy?


elizatye
K9 Senior


Oct 31, 2002, 7:46 PM

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Thank, Lisa. I'll send my puppy to the pet glooming, I hoped they will make his ear cleaned. I really don't know that alcohol can be used in cleaning the ears, because I though alcohol (not only alcohol, all the chemicals) is no good for the pets.


ginl
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Oct 31, 2002, 7:56 PM

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Yeah there were more ppl and dogs than usual last Sunday....i didn't really see your MS coz i was in the other pre novice class....mine is the only JRT over there....the one who jumps and chases the other dogs lol.....hey listen a bunch of us are going to the beach this Saturday at hotel....do you wanna come along? If you like you can either meet us at the Japanese Garden at 8:30am or you can go straight to the beach....let me know ok? Smile


arthur
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Nov 1, 2002, 6:41 AM

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Hi Elizatye,

You wrote..."May I know how long you spend to learn how to groom your schnauzers? For the grooming tools you mentioned, can we find it at any pet shop? Is it necessary to having all for grooming a schnauzer?" We are still in the learning process for Schnauzer grooming. Started about 6mths back. Still have a long way to really master the art! Crazy
As for the grooming equipment, yes! most pet shops especially the larger ones will carry the stuff. Easy to find are the slicker brushes (try to get the soft type), pin brush, metal comb (medium and fine teeth), ear powder and cleaner, hair pullers or hemostats, Kwik Stop Styptic Powder (To stop any accidental bleeding).

Harder to find will be the Andis or Oster clippers (Expensive! Starts from RM450 onwards), barber shears and thinning shears. For the shears, try to buy the best you can afford and get the longer ones (about 6-8inches). Prices start from RM70-Rm500!

For pet grooming, you'll definetly need at least the electric clipper, barber shears, thinning shears, metal combs, ear powder/cleaner, hair puller and slicker brushes.

For show grooming, all of the above plus stripping knives, mousse or hair gel.

Like I said, it's a challenging task but at the same time, very rewarding as well. Typically, we spend at least 3hrs per dog to groom them.

Rdgs Arthur


elizatye
K9 Senior


Nov 1, 2002, 6:14 PM

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It is really interesting but I don't think I can join you tomorrow because I not free in the morning. Sorry and thanks for your invite.Cool.


elizatye
K9 Senior


Nov 1, 2002, 6:21 PM

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I had sent my puppy for grooming today, I brought him back to the pet shop where I bought him ……. Haaaai……. Can you imagined … a schnauzer with a only single large eyebrows Mad Crazy…….Haaaaaaaaai … But fortunately I met a very kind old lady, another pet shot assistance, assisted me to clip back the schnauzer look Cool. But the eyebrows became really short. What I have to do now is to maintain this look first.

Thanks and it is really a long list of the grooming tools. At this moment I only have the metal comb and the brushes, and, I am not sure the brush of mine is the one you mentioned Unimpressed.


Best Regards

Eliza


luckey
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Nov 2, 2002, 9:29 AM

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WHat, you mean the pet shop clipped too much off your dog?


elizatye
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Nov 2, 2002, 3:45 PM

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No lah ! What I meant was his eyebrows. The body shape is OK ! But the muzzle whiskers is out of shape.


arthur
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Nov 3, 2002, 2:33 PM

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Hi Eliza,

I felt so 'geram" after reading what the groomer did to your puppy. Luckily there was a kind soul who managed to restore the schnauzer look back for you. Maybe you have to be around the next time or better still, ask around for a good,proven groomer for schnauzers. The eyebrows will grow back eventually, maybe in 2-3months time.

Have you visited and d/loaded the excellent charts/drawings from the American Miniature Schnauzer Club website? Under the grooming pages, you'll see a picture of all the grooming equipment needed plus an printable picture of the correct offical grooming chart. Do take the time to check it out.

Rdgs Arthur


ccsy98
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Nov 4, 2002, 2:50 PM

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Hi Arthur,

I just started grooming my MS (previously brought her to groomers). Just like to ask you a few questions,
1. you mentioned size 10, but mine doesn't state the size, it just say 1.5mm, is it the same?

2. I can't clip the ear as short as the groomers (both inside and outside) so how can i do it?

3. Do you think it is advisable to go to a professional groomer to take up lesson? (I know of a place that charge RM300 for a 5 hours "how to groom your own dog" course)

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