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brandyg
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Aug 28, 2003, 5:59 PM

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I lock my yellow lab 10 week old puppy up in a cage while I am at work during the day, I leave a toy or two and an old towel in there with him. He pee's on the towel during the day and at night while locked in the crate. Should I leave the towel in there with him, or just the plastic liner in the bottom? He does not poop in the house anymore, but he still pee's inside the house and will not let me know when he needs to go outside. For a few day's he would walk to the door and stand there for 2 seconds and then walk away and pee, before I could stop him to take him outside. He won't even go to the door and let me know he needs to go anymore. Am I doing something wrong?


sweeeng
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Aug 28, 2003, 11:06 PM

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I think the best way is to let your dog out everyday at the same time (a few times). Let him do his business.... and as time passes by, he'll know that he needs to go out to do his business and not in the house...

regards,
sweeeng


surchinmy
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Aug 29, 2003, 2:55 AM

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Hello ...

I think I responded to your thread on "lethargic" puppy ... Smile

I'm sorry ... but I don't think crating a 10week old puppy (especially a Labrador) for 8 or 10 hours a day while you are at work and then crating the puppy again at night - is the correct thing to do ... Crazy ... It is possible for a working person to have a dog - But not like this ...

If you are not careful - you may end up with more than just housebreaking problems ... Unsure

Would like to make some suggestions ... but do need to know a little more about your situation.

(a) Are you really in Dallas USA? Or are you local?

(b) How many hours are you at work? What time do you leave for work & when do you get home?

(c) Is there anyone else at home when you are at work?

(d) How far away is your place of work from your home?

(e) What kind of residence do you have? Apartment? House? Landed property?

Hope to hear from you ... Smile

Cheers


(This post was edited by surchinmy on Aug 29, 2003, 3:00 AM)


ai_ney
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Aug 29, 2003, 5:05 AM

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Yup i agree with Surchinmy.

Brandyg, crating/ caging ur pup for so many hours a day is considered cruel. A pup/ dog should be let free to run around the house. Please don't leave them in a crate/ cage. Unsure


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surchinmy
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Aug 29, 2003, 5:14 AM

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Hi ... Smile

If Brandyg writes back - I'll probably need your help & support on this one ... hope you keep an eye on this thread ...

ThanksSmile


ai_ney
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Aug 29, 2003, 5:23 AM

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okok... sure sure! Smile if i do not respond, give me a knock on my head! Crazy virtualy, of coz! Tongue
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surchinmy
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Aug 29, 2003, 6:07 AM

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Smile ... Thanks ...

Have you got an email addy I can go "knock knock"?
Mine is surchinmy@yahoo.com ...

Ta


ai_ney
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Aug 29, 2003, 6:16 AM

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yes yes... it's ai_ney@hotmail.com. do u have msn messenger? i can add u to my buddy list! my icq number is in my profile. Knock away! Laugh

Ps: u r the second person i know who uses the word 'Ta'! the first person being my boss! Smile


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brandyg
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Aug 29, 2003, 4:45 PM

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This is actually her husband signed on under her name. I do live in Dallas, USA, why?

I failed to mention that I do come home at lunch and let him out to use the bathroom and run around. I only work 10-15 min. from home. I don't really appreciate that you think that I am cruel to the puppy. I don't even spank him when he does something wrong. I am sorry if it seems that I am cruel for locking the dog up, but I am not going to let the dog roam all over my house and tear things up and crap and pee wherever he wants to, that is unhealthy for me and not to mention disgusting. I was under the impression that putting them in a cage while I was not here was the proper way to housetrain him, if it is not, please explain how I am to do it. Thanks Clint


brandyg
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Aug 29, 2003, 4:49 PM

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oh ya, here is the answers to your other questions, I forgot in the first reply I made.

(b) How many hours are you at work? What time do you leave for work & when do you get home? 8 hours, 7am-4pm

(c) Is there anyone else at home when you are at work? no

(d) How far away is your place of work from your home? 10-15 minutes

(e) What kind of residence do you have? Apartment? House? Landed property? House

I appreciate any help I can get on this matter, I am not trying to be cruel, just trying to teach the dog proper living conditions, so that we can both get along great and have a good relationship for a long time to come.


brandyg
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Aug 29, 2003, 4:51 PM

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Hi ... Smile

If Brandyg writes back - I'll probably need your help & support on this one ... hope you keep an eye on this thread ...

ThanksSmile





I don't understand why you said, "if I reply back"???? why would you need someone elses help and support on this one. I am looking for help and knowledge, I am not here to argue.


ai_ney
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Aug 29, 2003, 10:07 PM

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Hello there brandyg's hubby!

I did not say that u r cruel, but i said that the act of locking a pup in a crate/cage for so many hours a day is an act of cruelty. so well i guess indirectly that does imply the meaning. but i do not mean to offend u.

anyway, in my opinion, since ur pup is only 10 weeks old, i do not think it is the correct thing to do to leave it alone at home while u r away at work, unless u can make 3 to 4 visits back home and not only during lunch time. pups are like babies, they need special care and attention and need to be fed every 2 or 3 hours (this is what i was told, but would like to get a second opinion from anyone else here).

and well next comes the training part. it is understandble that u do not want to be disgusted by the pup's pee and poo all over ur house by letting the dog roam around. but the reality is, u need and have to let the pup roam around the house. i guess having pee and poo around ur house is what every pup owner has to go through in the earlier stages, before the pup is being trained. just ask any member here! i'm sure many of them have an experience to tell! but why not start training ur pup now? it'll be good for ur pup and u! u might want to search for some of the threads here that have had a discussion about pup's housetraining before. very informative stuff by the members here. Smile

btw in case u r wondering... i do not and have never owned a pup before, but all these knowledge i gather from my experience being a volunteer in an animal shelter.

so good luck to u and ur pup (what's the name anyway?). and speaking for those who r unable to speak for themselves, please let them roam around freely in the house and not locked up. Angelic


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surchinmy
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Aug 29, 2003, 10:30 PM

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Hello Clint ...Smile...

I asked ai_ney for "support" simply because we all work together in this forum to help where we can ... SmileSmileSmile ... no one person possess all the knowledge or experience ... and sometimes it's useful/helpful for you (and myself included) to hear from more than source of information ... Smile... if I gave you impression we were going to "gang-up" on you - I apologise ... for sure that was neither the intent or purpose ... Smile

Ai_ney volunteers at the SPCA ... and will have particular experience & knowledge of crating & dogs who have been crated ... she also works full time and is herself seriously considering adoption of a dog and how she is to balance work and the dog's needs ... all matters which will give her a special understanding of your posting ...

Different countries will have different facilities available for dog & owners ... and therefore it was necessary to know where you came from ... Smile... For example: Being in Dallas, you will have easier access to books and research material - better access to dog training facilities & experts ... then we have here ...

I trust all is resolved ... and once again, I apologise if I have offended you in any way ...

Okies ... here we go ...

Puppies: From new born to full maturity, the dog probably grows the fastest of all mammals, multiplying fastest in bone, skeletal & muscle. The dog probably grows fastest in its first 6 to 8 months. A puppy is also most sensitive during the first 18 to 24 weeks of its life ... Different experts may sub-divide the period differently but most are agreed that during this period how a puppy is treated, supervised, socialised, cared for & trained is critical to the pup ... fears & habits learnt over this period are difficult to undo & have a tendency to last.

I have a Labrador too ... and she is the love of my life ... and what makes Labradors so special is their "temperament" (so happy and playful when young, so sensitive and steady when mature) ... their intelligence (so easy to train, they almost understand what we say) ... and their love for people (they make terrible watchdogs) ... And of course, if you hunt - a Lab is retreiver par excellence ...

During this period of growth, it is important for us to cultivate these positive traits or we may not get the adult we are hoping for ...

As far as a pup is concerned ... it's owners are members of its pack ... and you the alpha pack member ... the pup instinctively regards all that you do in that context ... but a pup has no understanding of why humans need to work or why it is confined ...

Given the above, your puppy is in his critical growth period.

Crating concerns

(a) Long periods of crating is not suitable for proper skeletal development or brain development ... be detrimental to formation of paws and hips. Boredom sets in very quickly (even with toys in the crate). The puppy needs room to move & play to enhance muscle, skeletal and brain development/growth. If the pup has to be confined ... then he needs a space bigger than a crate ...

(b) A puppy's natural instinct is to eliminate away from where he eats or sleeps ... Crating for long periods subdues this natural instinct (because they are then forced to eliminate in the crate where they are confined) and can make housetraining very difficult. Ideally, we try to housetrain a pup by teaching him to pee & poop where it's convenient for us ... but not to pee or poop where the pup lives. If the pup's natural instinct is cultivated with good training - the pup will learn fast not to pee or poop where you & your wife live ... remember as far as the pup is concerned, you are his alpha & pack member and will not pee or poop where you live.

But if this instinct is subdued ... and the pup will pee & poop wherever he may be ... in the house, outside the house ... in your bedroom ... etc.

(c) A crate is intended to be replacement for a dog's cave or hiddy hole. In the wild, dogs instinctively finds a little cave to rest & sleep ... but it is not a place of confinement ... we ought not to use the crate that way ... or the dog will start to associate the crate as a place of punishment - and not understand why its being punished.

Housebreaking: Given that there is no one to supervise the puppy while you are at work. You must accept that housetraining is going to take longer and require much more effort and patience from your wife & you ...

Ideally, house training is carried out over a period of 14 to a month (when the pup first arrives) with fairly constant supervision required during this period - but unfortunately, you don't have this option Unsure ... so you must be patient ... a puppy of 10 weeks may need to eliminate some 8 to 10 times a day (their urinary & bowel systems are not fully developed and they cannot hold their waste as would an adult dog).

Given the circumstances ... the usual housetraining methods may have to be modified.

Suggestion: Go to the local bookshop - get a good training manual ... (I can suggest some books if you wish) most good manuals will have a section on housetraining ... Then work on housetraining in the evenings & over the weekend consistently & diligently - but without punishing or frightening the pup ...

Punishment for elimination in wrong place has negative effect ... Pup simply learns to be afraid to pee or poop when you are around and will hide its elimination (which kinda defeats the purpose) ... There are several methods for housetraining ... you have to find the best to suit your circumstances.

Confinement: If you agree that confining the puppy in a crate may not be the best solution, then we can look for alternative ways of securing the pup. Again whatever solution we suggest, there will be difficulties and again patience will be required.

Suggestion: You live in a house, thus I assume you have a garden or yard. Is it possible for you to cordon off a sheltered area for your puppy, while you are at work?

Keep the area safe. Do not collar your pup (especially never leave a choke/slip chain on a dog) when he is left in the area. Leave toys and chews with the pup. Avoid rawhide type toys ... rawhide swells when wet, and can choke a pup, avoid cloth, rope or plastic toys that can be chewed up and swallowed, for same reason. Alternate his toys to avoid boredom.

Always provide plenty of clean water.

For a 10week old pup, maybe an area 10ft by 15ft will work. Have the crate within the area - but this time, the crate is for him to sleep & rest (provide a soft place for pup to lie down - you can find really tough cushions/mats/matresses at pet shops which will be suitable for this) ...

With luck ... the pup will learn to eliminate outside the crate in a corner of the secured area and still give him room to play and stretch his legs.

In some homes we know, where there is no place outside, the owners create an area in the house usually next to the bathroom for the dog.

Let it be an area where if accidents occur and the puppy digs or chews (and that will happen) its okay and little or no damage is done. But for sure accidents will happen ... you may come back and find he's been playing with his poop or even eaten his poop ... but be patient, clean him up ... accept that that is not his fault ... and just move on ... SmileSmileSmile

Am real glad that you can make it back to the pup during lunch. This is most invaluable ... when you see him during lunch ... don't just let him out ... but play with him too ... show him your love ... and the puppy will know and understand that.

Socialisation: Finally ... accept that your pup is alone for long periods ... so during the evenings & weekends ... socialise the pup ... take him to parks where he can meet people & other dogs ... take him when you visit your friends. When your friends visit you, encourage him play with them ... Socialisation is one of the most critical elements for dog development ... and most essential to rearing a sound healthy dog ...

Given your circumstances, I strongly suggest that you & dog - enrol for dog training ... proper training of a pup is probably the most effective & fastest way to enhance and strengthen relationship between dog & owner. A training centre is also a good place to meet other doggy people and to learn.

Dogs are social animals. Periods of confinement and being left alone can lead to "anxiety" in a dog ... anxiety can cause a dog to chew obsessively & to develop a whole host of bad habits that can make the dog difficult to live with.

The way to avoid this is to make effort when you are home to spend time with the pup. I would even suggest that you let the pup into the house ... If possible, to even to sleep with you or at least share your room ... No confinement when you are home ... when you are home its "happy time" for the pup ...

Acceptance: Accept that your circumstances may not be ideal ... that it will be more difficult for your wife & you then it would be for a family where there is someone home all the time ... it is nevertheless very possible to rear and grow a pup into a wonderful adult.

It is impossible through this forum to tell you all you need to know ... so do speak to doggy-people where you live ... people who love dogs will always have time to share their knowledge and experience ...

We have 4 dogs ... and for every bit of love we have shown them, they have return that and more without question or reservation ... we wish you no less & good luck with your little fella ...

Cheers Smile ... see you around.


(This post was edited by surchinmy on Aug 29, 2003, 10:43 PM)


ai_ney
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Aug 29, 2003, 10:46 PM

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All i can say is... WOW! Shocked

This i really have to 'kow-tow' to! u r so full of constructive info and opinions! very good very good! Laugh

btw, i adopted an adult female pug but she is not well. Frown read a bit more about her in 'members introduction' under my 'hello all' thread.

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cshellz
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Aug 29, 2003, 10:51 PM

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wow surchinmy,

well said!!


cshellz
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Aug 29, 2003, 11:02 PM

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Hi,

Everyone in this forum are dog lovers and have the welfare of all dogs on high priority. That's why you find a lot of ppl who unselfishly and willingly sharing opinons, ideas and knowledge. Sometimes questions are asked - not to judge the poster but to help analyse the situation so that the most appropriate suggestions can be made. Smile

Hope you don't mind me giving some comments..

Your lab puppy is only 10 weeks old now. Will he still fit into the cage when he grows to an adult? I'm sure you and your wife have discussed all this before you brought the puppy home. Surely there are some plans on how to keep him when there's no one home?

My dogs all roam freely in my house. And they don't poo or pee in the house but only do it where they should which is our garden. Some ppl who live in apartments lay out newspapers for their pets to do their 'business'. But you have to remember that all toilet trained dogs started peeing and poo-pooing everywhere. You need the patience and you have to start somewhere. Once the dog understands, it'll be more than happy to do what pleases you. Smile

Puppies are exactly like babies and being only 10 weeks old, he's only been around for that long. He's probably been in your house for less than 10 weeks. We need to give the little ones to adjust and learn our rules in the house.

I hope your wife and yourself and think of an alternative way - other than putting a labbie in a cage. Frown It's very very pitiful when you see a young pup caged up. They are young and playful and should be allowed the freedom to run and play. I'm sure u both love your puppy, so hopefully something better can be worked out for the little one..

Smile


surchinmy
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Aug 30, 2003, 2:09 AM

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Hi ...

Here is a website that explains use of a crate and purpose of crating ...

http://www.geocities.com/~kalahari/crate.html

Cheers


brandyg
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Aug 30, 2003, 3:30 PM

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This is very helpful information that ya'll have given me. We were told by friends and other people that letting him roam the house would have the effect of him thinking he is the owner of the house and that he can do what he wants to when he wants to. I am sorry if I got upset at first, but it did seem like ya'll were trying to gang up on me and say that I was being cruel. I am just trying to learn as much as I can about the best way to take care of him. I have heard people say to rub his nose in his pee or poop, but I do not and will not do that because I would not want my nose rubbed in my pee or poop. He has not pooped in the house for about a week now, so obviously the peeing problem is related to the size of his bladder and not the fact that he isnt learning. Starting next week, I will let him stay in the kitchen (linoleum floor) so no damage is done to carpet. I read everything ya'll wrote and learned alot from it that I didnt have a clue about. I will change my way's of training and caring for him. I saw one part about leaving him outside, but the temp stay's around 100 degree's F in Texas during this time of year and I am afraid that is too hot for a young puppy (maybe I am wrong, I just know that I wouldnt want to be outside all day long in that kind of heat). The crate is about 4 feet long and 3 feet wide (that is why I thought there was enough room in it for him to stay in it all day long). Thanks again, Clint


surchinmy
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Aug 31, 2003, 12:37 AM

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... Glad we could help ...

Yeaps ... it is a little hot to keep the puppy outdoors ... indoor would be better & safer ... dogs dehydrate & get heatstroke much more easily than people ('cos their body temp. is higher and they don't have sweat pores) ...

Am very glad to know that you also think it's wrong to rub puppy's nose in pee or poop ...

If the little fella is not pooping in the house then he is already doing real well ... Smile

All the best ...Smile


brandyg
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Aug 31, 2003, 4:21 AM

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I let him roam the house last night while I slept, he tore up some paper towels ( not even sure where he got them from) oh well. He pee'd in several places all over the house, and he pooped once. I have puppy pad's in the kitchen for him, and earlier yesterday he pee'd and pooped once on the pad, I put a new one down, but he never used it last night, he used my carpet. I will put up a barrier between the kitchen and the rest of the house today.


surchinmy
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Aug 31, 2003, 6:08 AM

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Hi ...

You wrote: " ...I let him roam the house last night while I slept ..."

I wrote: "If possible, to even to sleep with you or at least share your room ... No confinement when you are home ... when you are home its "happy time" for the pup ..."

(a) Sorry ... I did not mean to let him "roam the house at night while you sleep" ... What I meant was that when you are at home, to let the pup be free so that he associates you with good things ... (but you still have to keep an eye on the pup and carry out housetraining education) ...

When it's time for bed, the pup either sleeps with you in your room (you can let him have a corner with a mattress) ... or he has to go back to his secured area for the night. If he sleeps in your room then instinctively he will not eliminate in your room 'cos there's where he sleeps too ...

(b) If you let him roam the house - accidents will happen Unsure.

If you would like him to sleep in the house (but not with you) then separating the kitchen from the rest of the house is the way to go. At least if accidents happen, its in an area where its easier to clean ...

Also just before bed ... take the pup out into the garden or to his designated poop area to do his last elimination ... Smile

(c) For most of us who keep dogs in the house ... we will have a reasonably set routine every night ... for example: Our dogs get their last meal & drink at about 7pm ... then at about 10.30pm or 11pm they are all let out into the garden for their last round of peeing & pooping ... Then everyone goes to bed ...

Once this routine is set ... the dogs know what they have to do ... And everything is well until about 7.30am the next morning, and they are let out again to pee & poop.

It will take time for a pup to learn this ... this is part of housetraining ...

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*Hmmm* ... maybe we go back a step or two ...

Housetraining: The basic idea of housetraining is to teach the pup to eliminate where you want ... so:

(a) First you have to decide where you want your pup to eliminate ... Some people want it done outside while others want it done in the bathroom (where its easier to clean up) ... Either is good.

(b) Second: You have to teach the pup where to go to eliminate. You cannot tell him - so you actually will have to SHOW him ...

In order to show a pup this - you have to observe/supervise the pup carefully & figure out the times when your pup needs to pee & poop (as mentioned before - a pup may need to pee & poop up to 10 times a day).

But most common, a pup will usually want to eliminate after a meal or a drink. At this age, the pup will need 2 meals a day.

(c) When you think the pup wants to eliminate ... you have to take or carry the pup to the designated spot and then wait till the pup does it's business ... then praise & reward ... thus teaching the pup where it has to go and that it has done good and this is repeated until the pup understands ...

With consistency, it should take 2 to 5 days to get some kind of routine set ... and another week or so ... for the habit to be properly grounded ...

There are many methods to teach housetraining ... Some use newspaper, others use a clicker ... etc ...

It's very difficult to teach the various methods & technics (or to know which will be most effective for you) over the internet ...

Please get a good training manual which explains how housetraining is carried out and (if you get a chance) speak to an experienced dog owner/trainer where you live ...

The key to effective housetraining whichever method you use is - consistency & more consistency ... You do have to watch the pup very diligently over the first 14days ... and use lots of praise & treats ...

Cheers ... Smile


brandyg
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Aug 31, 2003, 7:43 AM

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I didnt mean to let him roam around last night, I fell asleep on accident. I was not aware that giving the dog his last drink at 7 or 8pm would be enough water for the night, I will try that tonight and take him outside after he is done drinking. I just assumed that they would need water all night long to live. Thanks for all the help again.

On another note: When is it a good time to start teaching him to sit, and other little tricks? How long does it usually take for a pup to learn his name?

I will talk to my wife and have her read everything you have told me. We will stick to the new plan starting today and see if that works better. Thanks Clint


surchinmy
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Aug 31, 2003, 8:00 AM

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Hi ...

Understand falling asleep by accident ... happens too often to me too ...

*err* ... don't take him outside just after he has had drink ... schedule his last drink so that he has a couple of hours to process the water & pee before he is supposed to go to bed ... Smile

If you give the puppy lots of water in the day time ... last drink at about 8pm to 9pm (depending on puppy's bedtime) will do him fine till the next day ... it's cool at night & the puppy will sleep through most of the night anyways ... Smile...

By limiting his drinking & eating at night ... we relieve the pressure on his bladder etc ... Smile...

If you are consistent with calling his name ... and give him a little treat everytime he responds ... you won't believe how fast he learns & responds ... *Wink ...

You can start teaching him to sit, stay & heel anytime ... but again (at risk of nagging Shocked) ... will suggest that training manual ... if you teach him right from the off, then it just gets easier ... but if you accidentally teach him the wrong habits - that's much more difficult to correct ...Smile

But perhaps for the moment ... you might like to focus on how to arrange for the little fella while you are at work ... and housetraining the little fella ... That seems the most pressing for the time being ...

We can all understand how cleaning up after a pup isn't exactly the most fun thing in life ... Laugh ...

If nothing else, we have all learnt patience ... through our dogs *laughs*

Cheers


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snoopdog
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Sep 3, 2003, 6:35 PM

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Re: [surchinmy] Potty training [In reply to] Can't Post

Hi everyone,
I've been reading the whole thing and I do understand Clint problem. Me & my hubby work full time and it was quite hard in the beginning where I stay 1/2 hr away from work. My hubby comes back during lunch time to play with him. I'm going to write something where I'm sure everybody's going to be against it.....we put Dome on a leash while we are at work..I know it's cruel and it's very hard for me and my hubby to do that but we have no choice. But when I'm back at home, we spent our whole time with him, we take him to dinner with us, everywhere lah. He's happy and tired when night comes. Anyway, this process was only for 2 weeks and Dome's already trained to poo & pee on newspaper (most of the time lah). He's not leashed now, I let him roam around the house the whole day.

But there's one thing I don't agree. I do not let Dome to sleep with us. To me, bedroom is our sanctuary without Dome for me and my hubby, so it's sacred. I've read from the book that says try not to let your dog have the whole house. Let the dog have his own sleeping quarters..this I fully support. I'm not sure about others lah...but you know, different people have different opinions but in the end it's always for the best for the owners and their dogs.
I hope I'm not stepping on anybody feet here, it's just my opinion.

Ciao
Angeline + Maximus & Dome(miss u!)



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Sep 3, 2003, 6:56 PM

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Re: [surchinmy] Potty training [In reply to] Can't Post

Dear Surchinmy,

Learn a lot from your mail postings. Thanks. SlyLaughCoolWinkSmile
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