hmm..was raven's dad imported and his mom local? did the breeder also have bullmastiffs?
i went to check out some dane pups..sire was imported from europe(germany i think) dam was local..the pups were either fawn or black with markings..one of the pups look exactly like raven..of course i might be wrong..but hey,u nvr know ,-._,-. \/)"(\/ (_o_)
Ha...I know which breeder u r referring to.. The one near to a Hotel one right? The breeder lives in a bangalow one with a fat bullmastiff, right? I went to view his pups too. The sire is quite huge size but the dam is a bit small, right?
Nope,..Raven is not from there.
Have u seen other dane pups from other breeders in PJ??? I have seen one Australia imported Black male dane in ss19 there. Very good looking. Maybe u should drop by there one day.
Well, I like Black dane because it is easy to maintain...besides the price is not so dear as compared to harlequin, which cost at least 3k.
It would be nice to own a harlequin dane. The color is special. But, Hardly seen one in Klang valley. I have seen one in sunway and one in PJ old town. From what I know, it is difficult to breed one with nice marking. Most breeders here breed regardless to the matching color. Very sad case!!!
Which college do u go to ??? I'm oso a college student ler... who knows we are classmate!!!! hee hee..
harlequin's are nice..i have seen a pup or two..but the markings not very nice. the pup had spots all over..looked like a dalmatian pup will the marking's darken and eventually "join" to form patches? very hard to find ones with nice markings ,-._,-. \/)"(\/ (_o_)
Yup...harlequin is nice. I think the black spots are not equal in size and they don't scatter evenly all over the body. (like dalmatians) They won't join to form big patches. (from what I know)
I have seen one in old klang road, own by a used car dealer. It is a female harlequin. The black patches are quite evenly distributed over the white body. Very nice though...but the owner does not seem to care for the dane. I went there to view the pups some time ago.
i'm not sure but one of the breeders told me that the sire was black and white (mantle perhaps?) not sure...the dam was a cream colour..but the pups were fawn, black and white and harlequin...know any sites abt their genetics? ,-._,-. \/)"(\/ (_o_)
say if a fawn and brindle dog/bitch mated, the pups will either be fawn or brindle right? it won't become a light coloured brindle(based on the usual colouring, not the genes where the parents might have other colour genes)
or mantle and fawn? the pups will either be fawn or mantle right? maybe harlequin.. ,-._,-. \/)"(\/ (_o_)
if a fawn and brindle mated, i think the pups are going to be fawn and brindle too...it won't be like getting a lighter brindle or a darker fawn rite??? Both colors are acceptable to be mated according to the books that I read...
If a fawn mated with mantle.... then there is a possibility of getting some mixture of colors...like the base is fawn and with some black patches or white markings on the chest...maybe. I have seen one some time ago in Shah Alam. It is disqualified in the show for sure...
Below are the acceptable colors for mating:
1. Fawn vs Fawn or Brindle
2. Brindle vs Brindle or Fawn
3. Black vs Black or Harlequin or Mantle or Blue
4. Harlequin vs Harlequin or Mantle or black
5. Mantle vs Mantle or Harlequin or Black
6. Blue vs Blue or Black
Correct me if I'm wrong ok...I read from the books some time ago...and this is the best I can recall..
yup...I have seen a lot of black danes with white marking on the chest. They are the product of harlequin and black mixture. Fawn is also very common... I would love to have a harlequin in future...too expensive for me now
I have been viewing the Europe breeders on net. Their danes are just gorgious... I tried to ask about the pricing for a pup, and most of them are very expensive after converting to ringgit... It would be nice to import one...
Cream color dane?? u mean like the labrador cream color?? Most probably it is a mixed breed.... what u think??
i think if it was the normal home bred ones around AUS$ 800..not including air fare and health checks etc etc..
hmm..more golden retriever cream..more cream than yellow.. definitely pure bred..see the build, body shape and size, you know it's a great dane, it also has a cert..it was actually a nice sized female.. quite large compared to the smaller malaysian danes. ,-._,-. \/)"(\/ (_o_)
oh, really... sounds like it is cheaper to import from Australia.... after the conversion...er... plus the health check and air fare....should be around RM4k kua.... still consider cheap compares to Europe.
ok...I wonder why the Malaysian dogs are smaller in size as compared to the overseas'... Is that because of the weather and the type of food they feed their dogs??
It was very nice to meet and talk to you and your dad yesterday. Hope I can bring my dane next time...
i'm not sure..i hve brought this topic up a while ago..try searching "smaller size" or something like that
could be the weather..dedfinitely not the food..we buy dog food which were manufactured overseas which are widely used by the dogs overseas too. One member suggested that most ppl breed their bitches too often. the puppies end up smaller and "lower quality". still not too sure..even the pro breeders don't know why..
A pleasure to meet you too yea, can't wait to see Raven and Crystal ,-._,-. \/)"(\/ (_o_)
weather plays an important role on the size of the dogs huh? It reminds me of a GR breeder in cheras who breed GR in a bangalow equipped with air conditions,..and swimming pool too... The owner is the specialist on GR...and he imported the dogs from US... I guess when the dogs live in a cold weather, they tend to eat more and thus they would grow bigger, huh???
I'm not sure abt the weather..but your reason is sensible..colder, burns more energy to keep warm,eat more..
i think the air condition is for the comfort of the dogs..if they're comfortable, they'll be happier, better over all..
does that breeder show his dogs?
lol..Tyson? i wish i could..i bring Silky into the house already she doesn't like it..only can bring them in at night,after dinner for some "family" time..and of course sometimes in the afternoon when it gets too hot(which is almost everyday) ,-._,-. \/)"(\/ (_o_)
Well... about the air condition for dogs,..I m not sure about the purpose of the breeder. Maybe because of the thick fur?? Thicker fur may need colder environment to live more comfortable???
I don't think he showed his dogs before... from what I know, his GRs have chap bloodline from US. Very nice dogs.
My mum wouldn't allow the dogs to go in the house... she complains about the fur and the smell...
oh ya...there is an ad on star... a harlequin dane is on sale in PJ. I will be going to view this afternoon. It is a female...about 2 years +. Just feel excited to see the dane. Are you interested??? Add one more dog means double the extra JOY for sure...hehehe... will let you know more soon...
will bring Raven for the 4th dressing tomorrow... still can't bring him out for walk yet..