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Want to get a protection dog







ahmisk
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Aug 15, 2006, 4:37 AM

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Hello everybody,

I'd like to get a dog to protect my house and my family and I hope some of you can give me advice on where I can find one. I know that most of you here are professionals so you'd want a bit more detail so here it is:

1. I'd like a dog strong enough to deter the vast majority of potential burglars and even if a bunch of guys decided to come into the house compound, the dog could at least slow them down a little bit for us to call for help.

2. I also would like the dog to escort the female members of my family when they go for a jog. There are too many stories these days of people getting snatched off the street.

3. I dont expect the dog to be schutzhund trained and I dont think i'll participate in the sport in the future.

4. I've got a big family living with me, and have two toddlers (3 and 2 year olds) so the dog should be good with them.

5. I've got a fairly large yard in my house, so i dont think the dog will feel cooped up.

6. I've never owned a dog before, but am eager to get one. I would be happy to take the dog out for a run once in the morning and once in the evening and would also be happy to do some simple training (e.g. obedience, simple protection) on the weekends.

I've been told that the kind of dog that fits the bill would be a strong, healthy, territorial, self-confident dog that can bond really well and love my family. I'd go for any breed of dog, but I've also heard that in Malaysia a German Shepherd would be the most likely candidate. I'd also like a young adult.

If any of you is interesting in selling me such a dog or could tell me where I could get one please let me know on this forum, email at ahmisk or call me at 012 299 9832.

Thanks a lot.


Ludoc
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Aug 15, 2006, 8:14 AM

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you would want a GSD from working bloodline. Do not get deceived by people trying to sell yopu dogs from 'Champion' line: most are what we working people called 'Beautiy dogs' or conformation dogs: dogs with the 'right' head, good angulation of shoulder, good croup, nice movement etc etc but lousy(timid or nervous) temperament and bad hips! Be prepared to pay for quality and it is good that you are willing to work the dog twice a day. Also be prepared to wait up to three years before the dog is fully matured mentally and physically. With proper socialization and early training, this GSD will grow up to be a loyal companion and good family protector who will be willing to lay down his life doing so! Good luck!


ahmisk
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Aug 16, 2006, 7:12 AM

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Thanks a lot for the really useful advice! I'll look around for such a working line dog. If anybody might want to sell me one please give me a call.


Jasonk9
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Sep 4, 2006, 6:51 AM

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Anybody,

Hi I am thinkin of getting Presa for home protection, at the same time I m interested in involving him in Sch sports ... .coz I like the control that I see in the good schh titled dogs when they were doing the Obed ...and protection.

anybody know how good will Presa be in Schh ? and oso anybody here can point me to the rigt direction for good working ability presa locally,....thankyou.


Ludoc
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Sep 6, 2006, 8:34 PM

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Anybody,

Hi I am thinkin of getting Presa for home protection, at the same time I m interested in involving him in Sch sports ... .coz I like the control that I see in the good schh titled dogs when they were doing the Obed ...and protection. Pardon my ignorance, but what or who is presa?

anybody know how good will Presa be in Schh ? and oso anybody here can point me to the rigt direction for good working ability presa locally,....thankyou. Contact the 'Real schutzhund guys' in KL, Ipoh, Johor Bahru or Padang Besar.



Jasonk9
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Sep 7, 2006, 2:45 AM

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Thanks ludoc,
For your information, by presa I meant Presa canario (olso refer as the canary dog), The Canario dog frpm Canary Island in Spain originated from the local fierce smooth-coated dog found on farms and used as working dogs which were then crossed with Mastiffs and Old-style Bulldogs in the 19th-Century. The then dogs were strong and agile, and were famous for their gameness and courage.



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Contact the 'Real schutzhund guys' in KL, Ipoh, Johor Bahru or Padang Besar.



sorri....can U be a bit more specific, I've checkd mka website, there is much description on schutzhund unfortunately there is no mention of training location or club.....??? Anyone out there with any info on availability of Presas will be most helpful ....anyone....??

Thank-Q




(This post was edited by Jasonk9 on Sep 7, 2006, 2:56 AM)


Amanda85
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Sep 7, 2006, 3:00 AM

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d 1 he's mentioning doesn't belong 2 mka...

Pacco de Mongrel
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(This post was edited by Amanda85 on Sep 7, 2006, 3:02 AM)


kid
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Feb 11, 2007, 9:05 PM

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seem like i'm look for a dog that you are looking for... great! we sama-sama get a good doggie


A.D.
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Mar 10, 2007, 1:37 AM

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Anybody,

Hi I am thinkin of getting Presa for home protection, at the same time I m interested in involving him in Sch sports ... .coz I like the control that I see in the good schh titled dogs when they were doing the Obed ...and protection.

anybody know how good will Presa be in Schh ? and oso anybody here can point me to the rigt direction for good working ability presa locally,....thankyou.



I'm new to this board but have some experience in working dogs in protection (sport and PP). Were your able to find a Presa for SchH?


FoxTrot2
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Mar 22, 2007, 1:21 AM

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d 1 he's mentioning doesn't belong 2 mka...



Hello Amanda,

Why do you state that the ones Ludoc mentioned does not belong 2 mka? then how come for the competitions and demos that they have participated in and performed were the ones sanctioned by MKA? Did you know that even the Dog sport committee member of MKA that are from those states have participated in the competitions and strived for these competitions to be sanctioned? As far as I know, MKA is very strict against people who do not adhere to their by-laws.

With all due respect, are you a member of the Dog sport committee? As far as I know, you train at Pets n U, so please hold your tongue when claiming who belongs and doesn't belong to MKA or at least do your research. Does it matter if the one mentioned belongs or doesn't belong to MKA?

Who the one you mentioned belong to does not matter, what is important is the sport is promoted in a healthy way. I believe the Schutzhund enthusiasts in Malaysia do not welcome any politics, personal agendas or ulterior motives to their beloved sport as have so many other matters pertaining to the dog scene all over the world. The SchH enthusiasts in Malaysia is a small close knit family that are all members of MKA and have friends in puppy.com, pets n u, and many many other organisations.


Amanda85
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Mar 22, 2007, 9:14 PM

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ok...i jz feel that it doesn't belong 2 mka....if not jason would hd found out about d contact details frm their website...

n eventhough if i'm wrong, Ludoc shld hd correct me instead......

n btw, dun accused me b4 u found out anything... i do not train at Pet n You....i'm "self-studied"

i dun care how strict is whoever....i'm not their member....i hd nothing 2 do wit anybody...

Pacco de Mongrel
~ Come and join us for a doggie jungle trekking @ Bukit Gasing every Saturday morning ~

 
 




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