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lsling78
Dog Kichi

Sep 16, 2003, 9:49 PM

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Hi Arthur,

My MS (Brandy), salt and pepper but she is has very dark coat since was a puppy. The groomer told me that her coat will slowly shade to a lighter color but it doesn't seem to.

Now, her coat is a bit brownish. She doesn't lick her body much (so it could not be the saliva). I do bring her out for walk everyday. I bath her once a week with 'lovely bath' shampoo recommeded by the groomer and we do apply conditioner after bathing. She is fed on Eukanuba dry food.

Could it be the sun or the shampoo? What type of shampoo should i use to maintain her coat color?

BTW, about groming her, i do comb her almost everyday to prevent mats but I wonder how often should I strip her coat. I read somewhere that stripping is done twice a year. Is it true?

lsling78

arthur
ALPHA

Sep 18, 2003, 12:07 AM

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Hi lsling78,

Brandy is a dark salt and pepper and now her coat is turning brownish. You mentioned she's on Ekanuba dry food. Well, from my experience, the brownish tint can come from 2 sources.. Food and sun. Ekanuba has been known to cause dark coats to turn lighter, and light coats to turn darker. After switching brands, the coats on my MS reverted back to their dark colouring.

Also too much direct exposure to sun will also tend to turn dark coats reddish.

As for stripping, I presume you are referring to the process whereby the dog's coat is plucked clean until the bare skin is showing. Afterwards, the new wire hairs will grow out to give the required coarse coat for showing.

If so, then depending on how fast the coat grows back, your show coat will most probably be in prime condition for about 1-2mths before it gets too long and the whole process have to be repeated again. From bare skin to show coat length, it generally takes about 12 weeks or so.

If you are not showing your MS, generally I would suggest you clipper the coat as it will still give the same look but minus all the hassle and time consuming efforts to maintain the stripped coat.

Hope this helps. Arthur (BTW..it's good you brush out Brandy's coat daily!)

lsling78
Dog Kichi

Sep 19, 2003, 4:45 AM

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Hi Arthur,

Thanks for the information.

So what brand should I feed her with? Well, I strip her with those metal stripers. So, how often should I strip her with this metal thing?I don't pluck her hair. I clipped her hair.

She is my first MS and I want to learn more about MS. I love MS. I plan to get another female black and silver to accompany her because Brandy may be blind on one eye. I have not decided on the cataract removal surgery yet. I need to talk to more MS owners that have this problem.

This time we are going to choose our MS properly.

Thanks again.

lsling78

elizatye
K9 Senior

Jan 15, 2004, 6:25 PM

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Hi, Arthur, How are your little furkids ?? Long time didn't troubling you liao loh Tongue

...

I have a questions to ask lah Tongue

. We need to trim short the fur within large pad and toe pads of our furkid, right ?? Do we need to trim off the fur within the toes and the fur cover his nails ?? I done this to Yippi but his leg look funny Frown

... I done this because there are many fur in these area of all his 4 legs. I'm not sure is this the problem cause his leg got inflamed last few weeks (he always had this problem), so I trim them off.

Now I full groom Yippi every two months. Seems he already use to it and he will stand still for me to do the trimming, even though I didn't use any grooming arm. I will groom Yippi this weekend and hopefully can capture some photo and post up.

Thanks and Best regards.

Smile

Eliza

(This post was edited by elizatye on Jan 15, 2004, 6:42 PM)

moon0912
Novice

Feb 10, 2004, 7:52 AM

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Hello, I'm a new girl from Penang. I had a problem with my MS too. I never know there's still got people feeding MS, cos i never seen others people MS be4. Now only i knew, there still got a lot partner for my two little MS. I got 1 Bitch n 1 male. I only gave them some toilet trainning, cos i dunno where's got a training house for dog.

BTW, today i wan to ask 4 some help too. Blush

There always a problem with my MS. i comb her hair daily, everytime i comb her hair with became straight, but after a while her hair will turn currly again. It's there any solution to keep her hair straight...i duno much to describe it. just wan to keep her hair look nicely in long period. pls pls..someone help me.

ok...i hope u guys can understand what i'm saying... Laugh

THANKS thanks .....!!

arthur
ALPHA

Feb 13, 2004, 5:55 AM

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Hi Eliza,

My apologies for the late rply. To answer yr query, no, I normally do NOT trim off the fur within the toes and that covering the nails. It would look funny (as you have discovered!) A good groomer would try to achieve the column look for the MS leg furnishings. This style would cover the nails. If the nails can be seen, then it's too long and has to be trimmed.

Hope this helps and good to hear that Yippi is behaving himself when on the grooming table. A well groomed MS is a joy to look at. Smile

Rdgs Arthur

cshellz
Ultra ALPHA

Feb 13, 2004, 6:06 PM

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Hi Arthur! Smile

Haven't seen u here for some time! Guess what...i just adopted a new girl...her name's Scruffy and according to Dr Hasnul he's quite sure she's MS mixed Terrier cause she's Salt & Pepper and her legs really look like a MS!! hehe but she looks more like a MS gone wrong...like Gremlins after touching water.....kakaka...

elizatye
K9 Senior

Feb 16, 2004, 11:01 PM

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Hi, Arthur, Thanks for your reply. Now Yippi's fur was grew back to the normal length already. Learned another lesson and never done it again Tongue

Eliza

elizatye
K9 Senior

Feb 16, 2004, 11:17 PM

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My furkid have the same problem too, his body coat will became curly while it grown longer... same thing happen to his eye brow Frown

, so while I trim his eye brow, I have to be very careful...

Smile

Eliza

jyyoong
Novice

Feb 19, 2004, 7:39 PM

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As you know schnauzer have a lotof ear wax compare to other dog. If you don't clean it, it will smell and itchy for your dog. Need to get some ear drop and clean everyday using the ear drop & cotton bud.

elizatye
K9 Senior

Feb 20, 2004, 5:31 PM

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Thanks

. Currently I do the ear cleaning routine using the ear drop once or twice a week and pluck the hair inside the ear almost once a month or while I can see some long hair inside the ear.

Smile

Eliza

gladyslcp
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Apr 12, 2004, 11:57 PM

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Hey Aurthur,

I've read all the tips on how to groom our MS. Was just wondering when you mentioned 'plucking', does it actually mean pulling each and every hair out?? Crazy

That would be rather painful isn't it? And you mentioned that there's a website that have pictures of all the grooming equipments, do you mind give me the address? I would love to know which brush is which.

By the way, I've recently got a MS (Salt & Pepper) and her name is Sunshine, 3 mths old. Very mischievous little fella... when she poo at the wrong place, before i could scold her, she will grumble first... Tongue

!

I've met you before in one of the gathering at KK sometime ago, I owned a Black & White - Lhsa Apso. It's a pity that dogs are banned from the KK park... hope we'll have a new place soon.

Gladys (Sunshine & Rumba)

arthur
ALPHA

Apr 14, 2004, 6:17 AM

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Hi Gladys...

I remember you! Congrats on getting your Sunshine! Guess now your Lhasa Apso is no longer lonely.

To answer yr query on plucking. Yes, plucking is the process of pulling out each and every hair by the roots. This is not really painful especially on the body area as MS do not shed. The dead hair just hang on there in the coat till we pull it out or it gets dislodged when the dog runs about and brushes into objects. In fact, our MS actually goes to sleep when we pluck their coats. Smile

Plucking (or hand stripping) is to bring out the harsh outercoat necessary for show dogs. However, most showdogs will be clippered once they completed their championship titles as it take a LOT of time and effort to maintain the show coat. A clippered MS looks just as smart though!

There are 2 websites that I find useful:Here's the links..

http://www.strippingknives.com/...ng/schnauzertips.htm

http://www.alpats.com/groom.html

The 1st link is very informative and gives step by step information to handstripping.

The 2nd link shows lots of pictures including the tools plus what NOT to do when grooming a MS.

Hope this helps.

Rdgs Arthur

arthur
ALPHA

Apr 14, 2004, 6:45 AM

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Deleted due duplicate reply....

(This post was edited by arthur on Apr 14, 2004, 6:52 AM)

gladyslcp
Member

Apr 17, 2004, 7:22 PM

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Hey Aurthur,

Thanks for the websites. Another thing is, for the plucking process, when should i start plucking her ? SHe's 3 months old now.

And yes.. Rumba is less lonely now. Both of them are best of friends. Thank god they get along well. Smile

Gladys (Sunshine & Rumba)

arthur
ALPHA

Apr 18, 2004, 6:52 AM

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Hi Gladys,

Normally we start the plucking process from 4-5 mths onwards when the hairs have grown to more than 1.5in or more. That's also about the time the hair life cycle ends and is ready to be removed. Any earlier than that, the hairs are still "live" and plucking it out then would be painful.

Glad to know your two furkids are best of friends. Do take care that they don't play too rough especially if Rumba chews and tugs on Sunshine's beard. MS looks funny without their trademark beard! Shocked

Rdgs Arthur

gladyslcp
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Apr 21, 2004, 8:44 PM

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Hey Aurthur,

thanks for the info.. but unfortunately, i've just sent Sunshine for grooming about 3 weeks back... now gotta wait for her fur to grow longer.. only then i can start experimenting the plucking process..

Well, about Rumba chewing off sunshine's moustache... i am more afraid of Sunshine chewing off Rumba's fur.... Sunshine is the rough one whereas Rumba is very gentle. Even eating habit, our little fella will gulp down all her food within 30 seconds & eye at Rumba's bowl while RUmba is still slowy chewing away.. Crazy

Gladys (Sunshine & Rumba)

jojo_wm
Novice

Jul 1, 2004, 10:10 PM

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Hi Gladys & to all of you out there,

My name is Jojo. I'm quite new in this forum. I'm from KL.

I was basically going through this forum and sure did learnt a lot about grooming MSs. I noticed, Arthur, you are really knowledgeable, when it comes to MSs.

I love MSs and am looking forward to get one myself. However, that will only happen when my new home is ready. As I'm renting a room now, it will be difficult. Hopefully, by end of this year, I'll be able to shift in.

While going through this forum, I'm really excited about the idea of getting a MS now!! NOW!! But, I've got to wait lar..what to do!

All of your pups are so cute lar....

Anyway, in future, I might bugging you guys, therefore, hope all of you won't mind yeah! Kekekeke... Laugh

Warm regards,
Jojo

edser
Member

Jul 2, 2004, 11:17 AM

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Hi Arthur and all MS lovers,

Long time since, and how are your furkids. Enzo and Zeno would like ot say their hellos!!!

Serina
owns Enzo, then Zeno, now Zoe'n.....later Nezo,Ozne, Noze, Zone, Ezno, Onze, Zeon etc. anymore?

arthur
ALPHA

Jul 23, 2004, 7:34 AM

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HI JoJo..

Welcome to the forum. Glad to see another MS fan here. Do feel free to ask about this wonderful breed. Very good of you to do some research before deciding to get a furkid.

Rdgs Arthur

arthur
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Jul 23, 2004, 7:37 AM

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Hi Edser,

Nice of you to say hi! Our furkids also would like to say hello to their friends Enzo and Zeno. See U guys at the coming Dogathon?

Rdgs Arthur

edser
Member

Jul 26, 2004, 7:01 AM

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Hi Arthur & Sharon (furkids too)

Wink

great to be able to say hellos and greater to meet again!! We have plans to go to this year dogathon with ENzo and Zeno! Hope they will be able to adapt after so long!!Enzo maybe alright, just that i am afraid for Zeno as he has not been out that often compare to Enzo!!! Unsure

He can be timid!! hmmm this year you will to bring extra leash??? Wink

Regards Serina

Serina
owns Enzo, then Zeno, now Zoe'n.....later Nezo,Ozne, Noze, Zone, Ezno, Onze, Zeon etc. anymore?

thedogghouse
Enthusiast

Jul 31, 2004, 7:46 PM

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Hi Arthur,

I need to ask you... what is the ear powder for? my MS(3 mths) got smelly and wet ears. i try to clean for her everyday but then she doesn't like me to clean her ears. i don't know why but it's really stink and dirty. u know... those brownish wet and smelly thing. now she's a puppy and i just use clean dry cotton bud to clean her ears. how hard also i still force her to stay so i can clean her ears. plus she also got body adour. the ear hole fur need to be plucked? how?

carienna
Canine Addict

Aug 28, 2004, 6:44 PM

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Hie Arthur,

was browsing thru over here for some information and you really sound like a real expert in MS! Hehe! I have questions over here and I hope that you can gimme some help?

I owned a pair of MS, Wesley(Male) and Peppa(Female). As you can see on my avatar, that's my male MS and I groomed it myself. Though not good in it, but I am trying my best to improve. Laugh

However, both my MS have totally different kind of coat. Wesley has soft coat and grows long very fast, while Peppa has rough coat, and can hardly grow! Frown

Is it that becaused they stripped her coat before? Is there anything that can be done to make her fur grow? Please help.

I've seen the website you provide here where they show pics of groomed MS, and I really like how they done the MS's coat, especially the leg part. it looks so nice, but I have no slightest idea on how it is done Crazy

Golden Retrievers & Miniature Schnauzer are SIMPLY the BEST!!!!!!!

arthur
ALPHA

Aug 29, 2004, 11:07 PM

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Hi! Sorry for the late reply..was swapped over by work lately.. :(
Anyway to answer yr query..the ear powder is used to provide a positive grip when using the twezzer to pluck away the ear hairs.. (something like chalk powder when you go for bowling!)
And yes, MS ears need to be pluck cleaned to maintain the hygiene. Otherwise, the ears will become stinky and dirty..A good MS groomer would normally do that as part of the grooming service.
Hope this helps.
Rdgs Arthur

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