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terryfoo
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Jan 31, 2010, 7:40 AM


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Abybody know about the Puggle?

Hi,

My name's Terry and I am very interested to get a Puggle. I have seen pictures of this dog on the internet and I think it is a very charming and intelligent looking dog. I am very interested in getting one myself and yes, I am very aware that it is a designer dog. Does anybody here have any first-hand experience with Puggles? Where can I get one? I don't mind adopting if I can't find one from a breeder. Thanx


ACC
K9 Servant


Jan 31, 2010, 7:15 PM


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Re: [terryfoo] Abybody know about the Puggle?

Is good to know you keen on puggles...very intelligent and energetic, if you manage to find one you be joining celebrities such as Uma Thruman, Sylvester Stallone, Julian Moore, Jake Gyllenhall and James Gandolfini, having this breed btw puggle still consider hybrid (beagle+pug) coz both are purebreeds, designer when either one being cross before with others..Cheers!


(This post was edited by ACC on Jan 31, 2010, 7:21 PM)


GoldenAddict
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Feb 1, 2010, 5:56 AM


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Re: [terryfoo] Abybody know about the Puggle?

A REAL "Puggle" is a baby echidna (http://www.lexicon.net/waterwisp/Puggles.html).

A "Puggle" dog is an overpriced Pug/Beagle mutt with a silly name slapped on it by BYBers & Puppymillers. Pugs are known to have breathing problems & by mixing this breed with a Beagle, a hyperactive breed that LOVES to use it's nose is like a Recipe for Disaster! The dog will literally drop dead after running a few laps under the sun. Also, these mutts are commonly known to have serious health issues such as reverse sneezing, hip dysplasia & deformities such as severe undershot bite.

Here's a video of a Pug/Beagle mix having a reverse sneeze:
http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related
Although reverse sneezing is not life threatening, it can be very frightening for a 1st time dog owner to witness such thing happening to their beloved pet.

Check this out too:
http://www.pugs.org/Puggles.htm

Why not get a well-bred Pug or a Beagle? Why want to get an overpriced mutt with so much health issues? If you want to get a mixed breed, never get one from a breeder. Always get one from a shelter or a rescuer. You may not find a Pug/Beagle mix but there are other mixed breeds available that will suit your lifestyle perfectly.

Hope I helped.



"Multi BIS (local) GreatGrowkenn Agnes CGC" is ranked #5 (all-breed) in Best Malaysian Bred Dog Of The Year 2010"

(This post was edited by GoldenAddict on Feb 1, 2010, 6:07 AM)


ACC
K9 Servant


Feb 1, 2010, 7:04 AM


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Re: [GoldenAddict] Abybody know about the Puggle?

Golden Retrievers, Beagles, Pugs and etc....were they all born as in PURE? Think again....is being created to be so call purebreds. MUTTs they were all once. In the near future PUGGLEs and rest of MUTTY gangs will have their own say on this...AKC, UKC and other registery groups never once close its registrations to recognize breeds. Don't you see the sign says HOME to MIXED BREED and MONGRELS?

Do you understand? Look at your Quote of The Week....cut and paste as usual..Cheers!


(This post was edited by ACC on Feb 1, 2010, 7:20 AM)


GoldenAddict
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Feb 1, 2010, 10:35 PM


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Re: [ACC] Abybody know about the Puggle?

YAWN...
All those breeds have/had a purpose. Designer mutts don't. They will never be accepted into a registry. Deal with it. I find it so funny that these ''anti-purebreed'' people are so adamant to get their designer dogs registered with a legit registry...

ACC, you are obviously uneducated in the history of purebred dogs. Study up & come back when you have something factual to share.

Have a nice day.

P/S: You want to see an all 'cut & paste' post? Sure. Just read your own "The Joys of Beagling" post which you are currently still working on.



"Multi BIS (local) GreatGrowkenn Agnes CGC" is ranked #5 (all-breed) in Best Malaysian Bred Dog Of The Year 2010"

(This post was edited by GoldenAddict on Feb 1, 2010, 10:45 PM)


ACC
K9 Servant


Feb 1, 2010, 11:04 PM


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Re: [GoldenAddict] Abybody know about the Puggle?

Do look after your own backyard Melissa aka amber_mae aka etc....Hmmm wondering why change your ID so often? Problem somewhere or somehow or with someone? OH btw you still using Amber to breed knowing very well she has HD all along? Thats very sad I would say Unimpressed, no wonder so many health related issues poping up here and there at your end Unsure...Whats the tree line of a GT?

Oh you do find THE JOY OF BEAGLING (HUNTING FORUM) informative..thats the purpose of sharing to others but somehow you just discredit DIANE MORGAN- Consulting Veterinary Editor Crazy....cut and paste your're the self appointed chairman, without your consent would never do that..Wink

Still remember the Schnauzer issues?.....to be con't if you want me to.


GoldenAddict
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Feb 1, 2010, 11:29 PM


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Re: [ACC] Abybody know about the Puggle?

Show me PROOF that my dog has HD. If she does have it, she wouldn't be walking today let alone be shown or do Agility & win trophies. The Schnauzer issue? That is already a grandfather story & the owner has apologized us. You want to share that story with everybody? Sure, please do so but only do it if you can get all the facts absolutely SPOT ON! Then only will I applaud you for it. Good luck!

Does this look like a dog with HD?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/...00-h/Amber+Stack.jpg
That's my multi-talented Amber who has ribbons, trophies & certs in Conformation, OB & Agility. She also does canine freestyle & Flyball. Ha! Yeah right she has HD.

A crappy Pedigree dog with HD won't be able to produce a beautiful dog like this with good hips:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/...pkc/s1600-h/BEST.jpg

So ACC, give it up.



"Multi BIS (local) GreatGrowkenn Agnes CGC" is ranked #5 (all-breed) in Best Malaysian Bred Dog Of The Year 2010"

(This post was edited by GoldenAddict on Feb 2, 2010, 12:02 AM)


Knotidoc
Enthusiast


Feb 1, 2010, 11:44 PM


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Re: [GoldenAddict] Abybody know about the Puggle?

GoldenAddict, I am truly disappointed with your mentality. Being a matured lady, you indulge yourself on petty issues. You could be right and you could be wrong. ACC could also be right and he too could also be wrong. At the end of the day there is only one WINNER. May I ask you one simple question. Where is your trophy and what prize money did you get? Is it worth your while to win an argument. No wonder Ghostrider said I sure know my way around the block.

What you don't agreed and what you don't like just ignore it and let the members decide.






Opinion expressed may appear unorthodox & unconventional, sometimes even controversial but facts given are assured of their accuracy.



ACC
K9 Servant


Feb 1, 2010, 11:50 PM


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Re: [GoldenAddict] Abybody know about the Puggle?

Even a Grand Champs have issues, in every competition or shows it doesn't require a health test as long the dog meets standard requirements...YOU KNOW WHATS ON GOING AT YOUR END and U are respondsible of your act at the end of day...this doesn't require cover up, is a known issues for so long. Within the trade industry players we know very well, YOU have been discrediting local commercial breeders since you step foot here...ain't what you doing is the same?

I never mention Amber about competing...IS THE BREEDING PART THAT USE HER FOR...u covering to much issues and now you get yourseld confuse. Since you brought up this issue...WHAT about she banging against the pole and went underneath?...Ahhhh of coz show only nice and presentable stuff.

Remarks: an uneducated person like acc (as discribe by golden addict) can still post this comment...Cheers! melissa


(This post was edited by ACC on Feb 2, 2010, 12:13 AM)


ACC
K9 Servant


Feb 2, 2010, 12:59 AM


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Re: [GoldenAddict] Abybody know about the Puggle?

    





Aug 15, 2006, 5:20 PM

Hey everyone! Below here is my beloved Amber-Mae. This year, she's now going to be 10mth old. She's a beautiful Golden Retriever from thailand, Bangkok. Her great, great grandfather & grandmother were Thailand-American Champions. Unfortunately, she has hip dysplasia. This is her story...

www.puppy.com.my/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=270818#270818



Melissa i think u better give up and move on......


(This post was edited by ACC on Feb 2, 2010, 1:10 AM)


GoldenAddict
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Feb 2, 2010, 1:24 AM


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Re: [ACC] Abybody know about the Puggle?

Oh lovely! I was just about to post up Amber's hip x-ray photo. Since you brought up this issue all over again, I scanned the x-ray taken few weeks back before Amber was bred so that I can PROVE to you & others that Amber does not have HD. I don't even know WHY I have to prove this kind of thing to you (who are you anyway?) but I guess it's because I am sick & tired of hearing people accusing us of breeding our b*tch with hip problems.

Yes, I will not deny that I have mentioned that Amber has HD two years ago but then again, I was young & very ignorant then. She had an x-ray test at the age of 6 months old & the doctor said that either her left or right hip was not fully in her socket but he assured us that it is not HD. He pulled both her hind legs to see if she's in any sort of pain & even touched the side of her hips & said they are perfectly straight. At 6 months of age, you cannot prove/guarantee that a dog has hip problems. Only at the age of 2 years, you can. That is the reason why reputable breeders do a series of health testing to their dogs at the age of 2 years or onwards.

If Amber really does have serious genetic faults that she could have passed on to her pups, we would not have bred her. We are not that irresponsible or stupid. If you look at the x-ray taken in 2009 at the age of 3 plus, her hips are absolutely normal.

X-ray taken at Animal Polyclinic & Kennels in Kelang Lama.



"Multi BIS (local) GreatGrowkenn Agnes CGC" is ranked #5 (all-breed) in Best Malaysian Bred Dog Of The Year 2010"

(This post was edited by GoldenAddict on Feb 2, 2010, 1:33 AM)
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ACC
K9 Servant


Feb 2, 2010, 1:37 AM


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Re: [GoldenAddict] Abybody know about the Puggle?

Melissa, as i have said...MOVE ON, u lable me as uneducated and etc (thats for the rest to decide), just don't mess around with me...WHO AM I is not important. Just look after your own backyard and don't abuse the freedom you have at puppy.com. Cheers!


GoldenAddict
Canine Addict


Feb 2, 2010, 1:56 AM


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Re: [ACC] Abybody know about the Puggle?

I have moved on from this issue a LONG TIME AGO & you brought it up again today & this is the reason why this discussion/argument started.

ACC, I am not interested in messing around with anybody in this forum. I couldn't be bothered about you. Btw, I don't have a backyard & I am no longer breeding dogs. My b*tch is now spayed. You continue whatever you're doing in this forum & I will continue doing what I do in here.

I will continue to give my own opinion on backyard breeding, mutts, etc as I have every RIGHT to do so. That's what Freedom of Speech is all about. You don't like what I say, TUFF!

Here's my advice to you ACC. Do NOT bring up anything about anybody or someone else's dog if you do not have any proof/resources to back up what you say because in the end like I said before, you're only making yourself look like a fool. Period. End of.

Have a nice day.



"Multi BIS (local) GreatGrowkenn Agnes CGC" is ranked #5 (all-breed) in Best Malaysian Bred Dog Of The Year 2010"

(This post was edited by GoldenAddict on Feb 2, 2010, 2:01 AM)


ACC
K9 Servant


Feb 2, 2010, 8:16 AM


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Re: [GoldenAddict] Abybody know about the Puggle?

Keep those advises to yourself Amber_Mae, you are still young, hope you gain something from here . Cheers!


mutt2mutt
Novice


Feb 23, 2010, 4:15 AM


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Re: [GoldenAddict] Abybody know about the Puggle?

hi melissa!! it's really nice to see you back in this forumj again. I think it has veen almost 4 years since I last saw you in here? has your english improved? i can see the difference from reading all your other posts. hehehe. welcome back hun.
now I don't mean to stir up more trouble again, don't get me wrong but what is with all this drama in here? i can't believe someone would actually bring up someone's history and even take time to look for your other old accounts when those have got nothing to do with this issue. sorry for ranting liss i just had to get it off of my chest. i hope you dont mind.

so how have you been? how are the puppies?? Rex is shedding like nobody's business so i got him shaved the other day. now much much less shedding. he is now on the raw diet again. Doing well on it. hope to catch up with you someday.


ACC
K9 Servant


Feb 23, 2010, 5:58 AM


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Re: [mutt2mutt] Abybody know about the Puggle?

There wasn't any issue firstly at this thread....until your good friend came in, and as usual starts to show off and downgrade others, and so happen she pick the wrong person...that's me ACC, just look back jan 2010 post you will find the reasons behind...btw she was advise not to do so and was

Feb1, 2010 3.29pm (GoldenAddict)

You want to share that story with everybody? Sure, please do so but only do it if you can get all the facts absolutely SPOT ON! Then only will I applaud you for it. Good luck!

What would you have done mutt2mutt?


(This post was edited by ACC on Feb 23, 2010, 6:01 AM)


GoldenAddict
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Feb 23, 2010, 7:44 AM


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Re: [mutt2mutt] Abybody know about the Puggle?

Hello mutt2mutt,

Well, it's only been 2 1/2 years if I'm not mistaken. Not 4 years. I am fine, thanks for asking. The pups are almost 1 year old & they've grown very big.

Umm seriously, I do not wish to open up this issue again because I'm dead bored with it. And it's degrade, not downgrade ACC. When I said ACC was, "uneducated in the history of purebred dogs," & then told him to study up & only come back when he has something factual to share, he obviously got offended by it, took the whole thing out of context & blew up! He "dug out" an old issue from a few years ago & started all this mess. But when I showed him my dog's x-ray, he finally shut up. You know, he could have atleast admit that he was indeed uneducated about the history of Pedigree dogs instead of using that "old issue" to cover up his mistakes. It was that simple. But instead, he chose to take the other path & hence, all this crap started...

And yes, I absolutely degrade commercial breeders/BYBers. I realized that ACC supports them. Why? Don't want to know why.

But honestly mutt2mutt, I really couldn't be bothered with him anymore. I have a life, I have a job, I have dogs to take care, I have bills to pay. Who he is & what he does in his life & with his dogs is NOT important to me. There are bigger fish to fry.

Here's my email if you need to email me anything - amber.faith[at]yahoo.com



"Multi BIS (local) GreatGrowkenn Agnes CGC" is ranked #5 (all-breed) in Best Malaysian Bred Dog Of The Year 2010"

(This post was edited by GoldenAddict on Feb 23, 2010, 7:46 AM)


ACC
K9 Servant


Feb 23, 2010, 8:00 AM


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Re: [GoldenAddict] Abybody know about the Puggle?

You should have thank your lucky star you STOP....you do not even know where you heading....if you feel your back still itch...i have more for you..IF U REALLY WANT

TRY ME OUT......


mutt2mutt
Novice


Feb 23, 2010, 8:02 AM


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Re: [ACC] Abybody know about the Puggle?

i dont think she picked on you to fight or anything like that. i looked at her older posts(as you seuggested) and i dont see anything she wrote that sound like she was picking on you or wanted to have a fight with you. i think maybe you over reacted a littoe bit.

What would you have done mutt2mutt?
I would have ignored and moved on. since you brought up about the shnauzzer issue, i don't think the dog's owner will be happy to see people talking about it. i heard from someone that his dog passed away few years ago. i think the dog had liver or kidney failure due to breeding.
but whatever lah. this issue should be close once and for all especially now that melissa has xrays of her dog's hips.


mutt2mutt
Novice


Feb 23, 2010, 8:06 AM


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Re: [GoldenAddict] Abybody know about the Puggle?

i understand melissa. i will email you tomorrow.


mutt2mutt
Novice


Feb 23, 2010, 8:07 AM


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Re: [ACC] Abybody know about the Puggle?

okay i just saw your new post.dont you think you are pushing this too far?? you are challenging her again. why do you want to do that?


ACC
K9 Servant


Feb 23, 2010, 8:08 AM


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Re: [mutt2mutt] Abybody know about the Puggle?

That's the reason i held back schnauzer issue...i have information reaching my desk....mutt2mutt, kindly take your time to go through jan 2010 between your friend and me...u get the picture..before that kindly keep comment to yourself.


Look closer to her post just now.....


(This post was edited by ACC on Feb 23, 2010, 8:10 AM)


ACC
K9 Servant


Feb 23, 2010, 8:19 AM


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Re: [GoldenAddict] Abybody know about the Puggle?

YES OR NO?


As for you mutt2mutt.....i would strongly advise you to go through every detail once more...take your time.


(This post was edited by ACC on Feb 23, 2010, 8:22 AM)


GoldenAddict
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Feb 23, 2010, 8:24 AM


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Re: [ACC] Abybody know about the Puggle?

I've been waiting ALL this while for you to share the Schnauzer story with us all. What are you waiting for? Come on ACC, spill it all out.

If your story can match the pictures I have taken of the neglected dog with the HUNDREDS of ticks crawling out of the dog's ears & all over the body, the nice grooming I gave her + boarding all together only charge RM50, etc, then KUDOS to you! The owner must have been so honest to tell you the truth.

We are waiting.



"Multi BIS (local) GreatGrowkenn Agnes CGC" is ranked #5 (all-breed) in Best Malaysian Bred Dog Of The Year 2010"

(This post was edited by GoldenAddict on Feb 23, 2010, 8:26 AM)


GoldenAddict
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Feb 23, 2010, 8:30 AM


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Re: [mutt2mutt] Abybody know about the Puggle?

Yes, the owner bred the poorly neglected dog, dog gave birth, dog sadly passed away. This is the reason why I tell people not to simply breed their dogs. Btw, that Schnauzer was a piss-poor example of the breed.

Unfortunately, we have people like ACC who tells people they MUST breed their dogs when they reach two years of age. Hmpf, so much for a responsible dog owner/breeder. His Beagle is "pet-quality" & YET he bred from it. No x-rays, nothing done. He is a person I definitely degrade.



"Multi BIS (local) GreatGrowkenn Agnes CGC" is ranked #5 (all-breed) in Best Malaysian Bred Dog Of The Year 2010"

(This post was edited by GoldenAddict on Feb 23, 2010, 8:34 AM)


ACC
K9 Servant


Feb 23, 2010, 8:33 AM


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Re: [GoldenAddict] Abybody know about the Puggle?

DO you THINK I WAS PLANNING TO TELL THIS....you are very wrong....we respect some one's dog when in haven.....that very day itself, i held back coz details came later....BTW..U REALLY REALLY WANT ME TO GO ON, with things you might not be prepared?


pet quality as for my standard / as for your standard is show quality...why i prefer pet quality, coz it was meant to be a pet for everyone, if they are lucky to obtain from us...Cheers!


(This post was edited by ACC on Feb 23, 2010, 8:45 AM)


GoldenAddict
Canine Addict


Feb 23, 2010, 8:44 AM


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Re: [ACC] Abybody know about the Puggle?

WHAT??? Are you seriously kidding me? You were threatening me & mutt2mutt that you were going to tell people about the Schnauzer story & now you say, "DO you THINK I WAS PLANNING TO TELL THIS....you are very wrong....we respect some one's dog when in haven." You were very DISRESPECTFUL to even bring up that Schnauzer story when the poor dog died because of the owner's carelessness.

ACC, do whatever you like! I couldn't care less what you say about me anymore. It's getting old. Everybody in this forum can see what kind of character you are. You have no life, you LOVE digging up people's personal stories/histories & act as if you are the HERO of everything. Grow up old man & BYE!!!

Added: Yeah......nighty night old man!



"Multi BIS (local) GreatGrowkenn Agnes CGC" is ranked #5 (all-breed) in Best Malaysian Bred Dog Of The Year 2010"

(This post was edited by GoldenAddict on Feb 23, 2010, 8:55 AM)


ACC
K9 Servant


Feb 23, 2010, 8:50 AM


Views: 5101
Re: [GoldenAddict] Abybody know about the Puggle?

YOU SHOW NO RESPECT TO EVEN YOUR CUSTOMER's DOG....I have refrain myself to bring up this, read once more..you getting tired and jumpy.....Even have that you can't understand.....go 55 take sleep..u get more nightmares thinking of me...also do cut down on your sleeping pills (this not a joke).


LILYLIM TOLD AND ADVISE YOU IN A VERY NICE MANNER, what do you do? All meant to be good......WHY YOU SWITCH OFF GOOD ADVISE and GO HEAD ON.....WHY?

GO REST....


(This post was edited by ACC on Feb 23, 2010, 8:58 AM)