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Riccaval ALPHA Apr 4, 2003, 7:39 PM Views: 4524 Dental Care and Problems Hello pple, I was wondering how many of us really take care of our dogs dental hygiene. When I got one of my dogs it came with bad, no rotten, upper premolars, the ones next to the canine. Since then it has deterioated, the tooth has become loose and the gums are inflame. I'm going to have them extracted soon. None of my other dogs have this problem except for minor amount of tartar which i clean them periodically. Has anyone encountered such problems and what would be your advise Thanks

wkser ALPHA Apr 4, 2003, 7:55 PM Views: 4513 Re: [Riccaval] Dental Care and Problems hi, i dun am i doing the right thing...every morning i brush nous teeth with tooth brush with tooth paste i got from pet shop....... regards kangser and nous

minidinosaur Novice Apr 4, 2003, 7:55 PM Views: 4512 Re: [Riccaval] Dental Care and Problems In Reply To Hello pple, I was wondering how many of us really take care of our dogs dental hygiene. When I got one of my dogs it came with bad, no rotten, upper premolars, the ones next to the canine. Since then it has deterioated, the tooth has become loose and the gums are inflame. I'm going to have them extracted soon. None of my other dogs have this problem except for minor amount of tartar which i clean them periodically. Has anyone encountered such problems and what would be your advise Thanks hi, since your dog has oready lost his or her teeths, there isnt much u can do. but why dun u start now, but taking care of what is remaining. buy toothpaste from petshop, think the brand DDT is not bad and start to brush the dog teeth an gum. do it like 3 times a week, both outer and inner. if u have an issue using toothbrush, which is usually more pain for teh dog, use a cloth instead. this also help to clear bad breath. hope that helps.:) cheers

milooh Member Apr 4, 2003, 11:06 PM Views: 4508 Re: [Riccaval] Dental Care and Problems Hi there, I brush my dogs' teeth once or twice a week. And if there is tartar, I believe its called calculus, I use a scraper made of stainless steel which I bought from online stores. I think its very very important to take care of our dogs' teeth as I know of some people who bring their dogs in to have their teeth clean and it cost a fortune. Happy clean smiles to your all. milooh Rossie www.jef-b.com/Dogs

cshellz Ultra ALPHA Apr 4, 2003, 11:13 PM Views: 4509 Re: [ALL] Dental Care and Problems How in the world did you guys manage to get your dogs to sit still and let u brush their teeth and gums and remove tartar???!!! How old must the dog be before we start brushing their teeth?? Sparkle is only about 8-9 weeks old and he still has his baby teeth. I bought a toothbrush and toothpast from the pet shop about 2 years back to brush Richie's teeth and he nearly bit my hand off and refused to keep still!!! Tried a few times but then nobody in my family could do it. In the end, I resorted to buying those chew stuff which is 'supposed' to clean the dog's teeth. I know that wasn't effective.... Can someone please post some advise on how to brush a dog's teeth? Thank you!!

Riccaval ALPHA Apr 4, 2003, 11:33 PM Views: 4505 Re: [wkser,minidinosaur,milooh] Dental Care and Problems kangser, you're great, I won't be surprise if you share the same toothbrush and paste with Nous. Thks for the feedback. minidinosaur, hi and thanks for your input. Milooh, hi, I have the stainless steel scraper too. I have no problems with the other dogs except the one I mentioned. It was already there when I got him. Really feel sad for him Thanks anyway for your feedback.

cdmoo ALPHA Apr 5, 2003, 12:24 AM Views: 4500 Re: [Riccaval] Dental Care and Problems hi Derrick, Beside this toothpaste /toothbrush from the pet shop and the scraper (by the way, is this available in most pet shops? ) , do you know of any traditional way of cleaning their teeth? TQ regards, CD Moo

Riccaval ALPHA Apr 5, 2003, 12:41 AM Views: 4499 Re: [cdmoo] Dental Care and Problems Hi CD, I also use the Oxyfresh gel as toothpaste. This gel can also be use for hot spots, insect bites, minor cuts etc. contain Aloe V. As for the stainless steel scrapper, i got mine at Crufts and so far i havent seen it in any of the local petshop. This is a two sided scrapper with different angles. Its good and effective. someone also gave me some so call 'volcanic' ashes to rub against the dog teeth. Claimed to be good for polishing the teeth. Does anyone in the forum sends their dog to the vet for scaling and polishing of teeth? Regards

mackmack Doggyman Apr 5, 2003, 2:43 AM Views: 4492 Re: [Riccaval] Dental Care and Problems I did. Brushed mack's teeth as a routine job everytime i bath him. Followed by nails trimming and ears-cleaining....etc. But the way to brush him is a bit different than yours. He will do it by himself. Guess he liked the taste of the toothpaste, after i put on the toothpaste on the brush, he'd snap it and had the whole brush inside his BIG mouth, chew, and chew, and chew until filled of foams. Sometimes he'll have it out by himself, sometimes i just need to dig it out from his mouth! After that, rinse thoroughly..... Job Done! --I have Howling Bean and Lazy Mack.-- (This post was edited by mackmack on Apr 5, 2003, 2:45 AM)

minglmy Puppycom Veteran Apr 5, 2003, 10:24 AM Views: 4487 Re: [mackmack] Dental Care and Problems hahaha....so good lar wonder how to train mine to do it coz, she only likes to brush her teeth using my fingers chewing and all cheers, minglmy

mackmack Doggyman Apr 6, 2003, 12:44 AM Views: 4481 Re: [minglmy] Dental Care and Problems I didn't TRAIN mack on the hygiene matter la.... it was him being too playful and thought the foams inside his mouth is FUN and the tooth paste taste good to him gua..... at first, mack disliked the "water-rinsing" part, but since I did teeth-brushing during bathing time, then i add-in face-massage session lo.... u know.... the spots behind the ears and around his neck. --I have Howling Bean and Lazy Mack.--

hunter Ultra ALPHA Apr 6, 2003, 7:23 PM Views: 4471 Re: [All] Dental Care and Problems dear all, hi, i happen to watch a tv program yesterday and they talked about dog's teeth. they did a comparison test, and it seems big, harden dog biscuits do reduce tartar. so they made these crazy BIG square dog biscuits for the dogs to eat - and really - their tartar was greatly reduced. after the program, i gave my dog one of those big rectangular eukanuba healthy biscuit to consume (i gave the whole piece - normally i would break it into pieces for him, but not this time), and indeed, part of the tartar was gone besides that, they also mentioned about brushing the dog's teeth - it's strongly advisable to do so every day. brush the teeth in circular motion, both outside, and inside. tartar could easily develop within minutes, so it's really important to take care of your dog's teeth - if not, they will develop gum problems in future. just sharin' a bit of info. hope this helps :) regards, yellow-toothed hunter

milooh Member Apr 6, 2003, 8:19 PM Views: 4469 Re: [cshellz] Dental Care and Problems Here is a good link. Hope this helps. http://www.catndoghospital.com/teethbrush.htm Rossie www.jef-b.com/Dogs

mackmack Doggyman Apr 7, 2003, 7:56 AM Views: 4463 Re: [hunter] Dental Care and Problems Yeah~ those are very good treats compare to "bacon bacon". and i think it's mroe fun to let them chew on. can kill their time, their energy, and good for tartar. but i fed mack those "bone" once a week only.... so he won't have a boring weekends --I have Howling Bean and Lazy Mack.--

hunter Ultra ALPHA Apr 7, 2003, 8:02 AM Views: 4461 Re: [mackmack] Dental Care and Problems hi, no no .. eukanuba healthy biscuits are simply treats which i got free from purchasing their doggie food a couple of weeks ago - they're slightly bigger and harder to chew on compared to other treats. what bone are you referring to? those rawhides? or nylon bones? or bone shaped treats :D? so many la. regards, yellow toothed hunter

mackmack Doggyman Apr 7, 2003, 8:04 AM Views: 4459 Re: [hunter] Dental Care and Problems The tartar-prevention products that you mentioned about, but in bone shape, about the size of my palm. --I have Howling Bean and Lazy Mack.--

hunter Ultra ALPHA Apr 7, 2003, 8:08 AM Views: 4457 Re: [mackmack] Dental Care and Problems aaah........... :O many of those products but don't know which really works anyway. i once bought him some crazy red bone for him to kill tartar and time. turn out he finished the one big bone (it's made of hard cereal..) within 3 hours - with his teeth and paws and mouth covered with horrifying red color - like he ate a cow or something. haha. never bought him those again.

mackmack Doggyman Apr 7, 2003, 8:13 AM Views: 4455 Re: [hunter] Dental Care and Problems oh yeah~ i always avoid buying treats full of artificial color.... it just doesn't seems right tit-bits for them, just my feeling~ --I have Howling Bean and Lazy Mack.--

yazi Novice Apr 7, 2003, 10:00 AM Views: 4453 Re: Dental Care and Problems to remove tartar, can try using nylonbone/gummabone. its works wonder for bean more info can found here: http://www.nylabone.com/dental/ [A Dog is the only thing on earth that luv you more than you luv yourself ;p]

Trivor K9 Servant Apr 7, 2003, 8:06 PM Views: 4447 Re: [cshellz] Dental Care and Problems    Hahaahaaa... I have the same question too!! Also, I would think Trivor would swallow the tooth paste rather than let me rinse off. err.... It should be ok to swallow right? She is 4 months old, and I never brush her teeth before. I am going to start now!! woof woof...

strawhoney K9 Maniac Apr 7, 2003, 8:23 PM Views: 4445 Re: [Riccaval] Dental Care and Problems hey everyone.. odie loves his toothpaste...it's peanut butter in taste...i guess it's just too yum yum for his to resist... it's kinda hard getting him to sit still..but once he sees the toothbrush and the paste..he's gonna surrender immediately.. Meme odie moves MY world!

cshellz Ultra ALPHA Apr 8, 2003, 1:01 AM Views: 4434 Re: [ALL] Dental Care and Problems Hi guys, Thanks for all the information!! I want to start brushing Sparkle's teeth but he's only nearly reaching 9 weeks. Is he still too young? When should we start brushing their teeth or do u guy recommend me starting it now so he can get used to it? Thanks!!!

boon Doggyman Apr 10, 2003, 3:22 AM Views: 4414 Re: [cdmoo] Dental Care and Problems Hi Uncle, raw or cooked cicken neck will reduce and whiten dogs' teeth. It work perfectly for my monkey. Mack/Hunter : try to fe the Nutor Max bone, the biscuit size is super huge and hard, about 3 inches per biscuit. Boon - I Love Fast Dogs That Hit Hard You Ask Me To Fight For You, I Give You Freedom & Protection And Then You Question The Manner In Which I Provide It, I'd Rather You Just Said -- "Thank You" --

wkser ALPHA Apr 10, 2003, 6:26 PM Views: 4409 Re: [boon] Dental Care and Problems hi boon, uncle hahaha.........yeah raw or chicken neck will reduce and whiten dog's teeth ...it works for my little pincher(nous)heheheheh..... regards kangser and nous

boon Doggyman Apr 10, 2003, 7:26 PM Views: 4406 Re: [wkser] Dental Care and Problems Hi Kang Ser, Hahahhahaha, Pincher ? No lah, Ah Nu should be either : 1. Labrador De Pincher OR 2. Pincher Retriever Which from the name u can tell, bark like a pincher (high pitch) and look like a retriever. Boon - I Love Fast Dogs That Hit Hard You Ask Me To Fight For You, I Give You Freedom & Protection And Then You Question The Manner In Which I Provide It, I'd Rather You Just Said -- "Thank You" --

ginl ALPHA Apr 11, 2003, 6:48 AM Views: 2428 Re: [boon] Dental Care and Problems Hand and Leg, I oso agree on the chicken....works wonders for my little rottweiler so far!

minglmy Puppycom Veteran Apr 11, 2003, 9:00 AM Views: 2423 Re: [ginl] Dental Care and Problems Hi guys, I guess next time when my "labrador retriever" is much older, I must give her a try on the chic neck. cheers, minglmy

boon Doggyman Apr 11, 2003, 4:39 PM Views: 2417 Re: [ginl] Dental Care and Problems Hi Aunty, u feed ur Jack Russel Weiler with raw chicken neck or raw one ? How about carcasses ? Boon - I Love Fast Dogs That Hit Hard You Ask Me To Fight For You, I Give You Freedom & Protection And Then You Question The Manner In Which I Provide It, I'd Rather You Just Said -- "Thank You" -- (This post was edited by boon on Apr 11, 2003, 4:40 PM)

ginl ALPHA Apr 12, 2003, 12:44 AM Views: 2409 Re: [boon] Dental Care and Problems Raw ....nowadays i give more on carcass than chicken necks....the carcass actually also comes with a chicken neck as well.

cshellz Ultra ALPHA Apr 12, 2003, 1:09 AM Views: 2404 Re: [ginl] Dental Care and Problems I've been reading through this thread and I'm a little shocked...and err...ignorant. Can you actually feed a carcass to a dog????? I mean, uncooked neck and feet and all that? What about bacteria in the food?? hehe...sorry...this is my first time hearing about it.. I've always cooked the food I give to my dog. Even the chicken neck and chicken feet. What's the diff between giving it raw and cooked? And wouldn't eating it raw make their breathe stink? Hope some of u can share a bit with me here... sifus sifus...thank u

ginl ALPHA Apr 12, 2003, 7:39 AM Views: 2399 Re: [cshellz] Dental Care and Problems Hi cshellz, Raw diet is known as BARF...if u do a search on the net u'll find a lot of info on it....it's not something new...some ppl are ok with it while some find it eeky...difference between raw and cooked bones are cooked bones will harden and splinter....you'll find that u can actually break a raw chicken bone very much easier than a cooked one...as for the breath it's actually the opposite...if u feed raw i can assure u your dog will not hv any doggie breath at all...you can put your nose right inside your dog's mouth and won't faint ....i don't feed chicken feet, more of the whole chicken carcass that ppl buy to cook soup? where u still hv meat attached to the bones....there's a lot of controversy in a BARF diet, so it all depends on how comfortable u are with it

cdmoo ALPHA Apr 12, 2003, 7:53 PM Views: 2388 Re: [ginl] Dental Care and Problems hi, Understand from the forum member, Milooh, that her friend even gives live chickens to their dogs. So, I presume the dogs would eat the feathers as well.. regards, CD Moo

mackmack Doggyman Apr 12, 2003, 8:23 PM Views: 2387 Re: [cdmoo] Dental Care and Problems Then the dog will be eating like a snake/crocodile? yee~~~~ still hard to accept the way of raw-diet.... --I have Howling Bean and Lazy Mack.--

ginl ALPHA Apr 12, 2003, 8:53 PM Views: 2384 Re: [cdmoo] Dental Care and Problems Live chicken? wow...imagine our dog chasing the chicken hahahahaa....i know ppl also feed whole fish, with scales and guts and all...never tried that....that'll be gross for me

cshellz Ultra ALPHA Apr 12, 2003, 11:32 PM Views: 2379 Re: [ginl] Dental Care and Problems Wahlau.. Even the raw chicken neck and carcass already I find a little gory.. ...but eating a chicken that's still alive???? I dun think I can stand watching/cleaning up!! I'll pengsan first after seeing the blood.. Well, it might be good, but I still find it a tad bit cruel to see the chicken suffer such a painful death! And the fish??!! scales and guts and blood and all?? This is still very new to me...I will go check out online about it though. But if the raw neck and carcass is good maybe I'll introduce it to Sparkle when he grows up a bit. But the whole fish and whole chicken...I think I'll make a decision for Sparkle and pass that.. I learn something new everyday here...hehe

mackmack Doggyman Apr 12, 2003, 11:35 PM Views: 2377 Re: [ginl] Dental Care and Problems Grilled fish tried b4, fried crispy ikan bilis also yummy~ but high cholestrol. Well, once a while as rewards, not bad...can WIN their hearts.... hahahhah....and be the GOOD person... --I have Howling Bean and Lazy Mack.--

cshellz Ultra ALPHA Apr 12, 2003, 11:35 PM Views: 2376 Re: [ALL] Dental Care and Problems oh...and thank u all sifus...for the lessons...

arthur ALPHA Apr 12, 2003, 11:53 PM Views: 2376 Re: [ginl] Dental Care and Problems Hi Gina, Live chickens for dinner huh? Maybe for the bigger breeds. Actually, I've toyed with the idea (briefly!) of letting Lee Ron loose on a hamster and see what happens. Schnauzers were orginally bred to be ratters, which explains why they spot movement very quickly and chase it down. Do rest assured that this is just a fleeting thought. No need to call SPCA! I have read in other forums that MS will kill and eat small animals (One owner let his MS alone with his kids pet hamster...when they came back, all that's left is some bits of fur and a happy MS with blood on his muzzle...) Rdgs Arthur...

arthur ALPHA Apr 13, 2003, 12:11 AM Views: 2373 Re: [cshellz] Dental Care and Problems Hi Cshellz, Actually come to think of it, dogs in the wild have been hunting and killing their food to survive. And eating them raw as well. This is one of the basis of BARF supporters. The commercial dry dog food industry only took off fairly recently in 1960s or thereabouts. Most owners that put their pets on a BARF diet do notice a healthier disposition. Coats and eyes are shiny, teeth are white and no smelly breath..even behavioural changes. Dogs will eat almost everything in a kill, including the intestines of the prey (usually herbivores). Indirectly, they are also consuming vegetation thru the intestines/stomach contents. BARF thus consists of both raw meat,bones and vegetables as well. Of course with raw food, there is always the risk of food poisoning due to bad bacteria. However, if the food is fresh, prepared under hygenic conditions, then this risk is minimised. Otherwise, we will not have sushi! (I like sushi! ) In the end, like Gina says, it is up to the owners preference. Hope this helps. Rdgs Arthur (BTW, I feed dry dog food mainly, supplemented with cooked chicken necks to clean teeth)

ginl ALPHA Apr 13, 2003, 1:48 AM Views: 2368 Re: [arthur] Dental Care and Problems hehe well does Lee Ron chases and hunt anything at home? i know biscuit is obsessed with hunting at home all the time...jrts were bred to hunt too, primarily to hunt foxes but also vermins when they're at home....i know if u put a hamster in front of him that's the end of it...coz outside our hse sometimes u can find a rat running by (usually very late at night) and he is just obessed with getting at them.....after midnite if u let him out in the garden he'll stand there with his 'hunting pose and look' waiting to pounce at anything that moves....if u say the word lizard lizard he'll know how to look up at the ceiling with excitement hahahaaha

arthur ALPHA Apr 13, 2003, 2:46 AM Views: 2363 Re: [ginl] Dental Care and Problems Hi Gina, Not only Lee Ron but Lee Sha and Pepper will dash to the backyard whenever they hear the lizard making a noise up near the flourescent lights. All 3 of them will be like Biscuit..looking up and sometimes barking away. If they are outside, they love to chase birds, squrriels, cats..basically anything that moves. If the neighbourhood is quiet, then they'll play pounce on each other especailly Lee Ron who likes to instigate play. Sometimes we get to see a hilarous scene where he's being chased by the 2 girls round and round like crazy. Probably he said or did something that got the 2 girls sooo mad at him! Rdgs Arthur

ginl ALPHA Apr 13, 2003, 6:03 AM Views: 2358 Re: [arthur] Dental Care and Problems haaaaahaaaa i can imagine the scene already, Lee Ron being chased by the girls...probably said something mean to the girls (like all typical boys like to do! )...poor Lee Ron, bullied by girls

arthur ALPHA Apr 13, 2003, 7:16 PM Views: 2352 Re: [ginl] Dental Care and Problems Hi Gina, Yes, I totally agree with you. He most probably said someting very mean to get both girls to chase him round and round like that.. Anyway, back to the topic of dental care..I have always admired Biscuit's clean and white teeth.. Do you feed him a chicken carcass everyday? or alternate days... Rdgs Arthur

ginl ALPHA Apr 14, 2003, 2:48 AM Views: 2345 Re: [arthur] Dental Care and Problems eerrr...used to be everyday...morning meals kibbles, evening meal carcass with steamed veggies...but sometimes i skip the carcass and give him steamed liver and gizzards....but nowadays very seldom i feed him fresh food ...coz i've started working already and don't really hv time to prepare fresh for him....i can really see the difference u know frm before and now....since i dun feed him raw as much his teeth is not as good as before, so i hv to brush or scrape his teeth occasionally, and also his breath is starting to smell ....but i got him one of those nylon bones to chew which really works wonders too....if he chews long enough it helps with the teeth stain and bad breath....i'll probably continue feeding him fresh food once i get used to working life again....u know lar so long never work liao suddenly start working very tiring for me not used to the hrs

cshellz Ultra ALPHA Apr 14, 2003, 6:34 PM Views: 2336 Re: [arthur] Dental Care and Problems hi arthur! Thanks for the info Arthur and Gina. When Sparkle is a little older I will let him try out one raw neck first...see if he (and I!!! heheh) can take it or not... U know..I got one of those plastic chew bones to clean Richie's teeth b4, but that fella hid the bone and I still can't find it!

houyee Novice Jul 2, 2003, 12:57 PM Views: 2305 Re: [wkser] Dental Care and Problems i know you're not suppose to advertise here but greenies are all the rage nowadays. they smell good too. can't buy dog toothpaste in ipoh lah. the pet shops so ah beng one :P anyway i just clean rowena's teeth with an old dish cloth! i read somewhere you need to do scaling at age 3-4 years under anaesthesia. my vet offers that too. btw mack mack...you are not an insomniac cause you are in LA and it is morning there!!! duh! hehe zippy 'rowena' kojak

mackmack Doggyman Jul 2, 2003, 1:14 PM Views: 2304 Re: [houyee] Dental Care and Problems Aiyoh~ how can u describe a pet shop as "ah-beng"~??? here is not morning. 15 hours behind KL time. now about 2:15 pm of july 1st. --I have Howling Bean and Lazy Mack.--