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K9mon
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Nov 1, 2005, 2:56 AM

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Hi guys/gals,

I have heard about this great dog name Eros V. De Mohnwise which won 2 consecutive schutzhund world champion. Would like to find out if anyone knows more about this dog's blood line and history.

Also I have heard rumors that Eros's brother Elute is a better producer in Germany. Any idea?

I am guessing that the German guys uses Elute more as a stud because it is easily accessable as compared to Eros since Eros is now in Belgium with Ron(something like that)?

Thanks.

leecy
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Nov 1, 2005, 9:15 AM

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K9mon

all these names are stranger for me.. but hope to learn more! seems interesting.

Regards,

Yang

K9mon
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Nov 2, 2005, 7:30 AM

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Yes, I too am very interested and wish to find out more and learn from the GURUS in this forum especially PSD, Azman, Pollux, Al, and others.

I hope to hear from you guys.

Actually I have more questions on the other strong lines such as Mink, Fero, and other big names (if any). Kindly share some information on the background of the line of what it is strong for and also their weakness.

I appreciate that.

koolfang
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Nov 2, 2005, 5:35 PM

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k9mon,

u can go to pedigreedatabase.com to trace the lineage... eros's pups are sold in kl and few of my frens bought 'em... not bad... if u like sport, its a nice speciment. can consider civil also...

- its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog...

K9mon
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Nov 4, 2005, 5:11 AM

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Hi Koolfang,

Thanks for the info.

About Eros puppies in Malaysia do you know who is the breeder?

BTW if anyone in this forum has own a Eros bloodline, would appreaciate if you could share with us your experience with the puppy. (e.g. how's the prey drive, the food drive, the temperament with people, the curiousity towards new objects and such.)

Thanks

K9mon
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Nov 4, 2005, 6:20 AM

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btw I've heard another rumor that Eros puppies in Malaysia are nice, big bones and friendly temperament. The prey drive is ok but not consistent. The food drive is average.

Rumors have said that the dam used might not be a full working line which might have affected the the litter's prey drive and food drive. (I would assume that a pure working line pup will have high prey drive and food drive, please correct me if I'm wrong)

Can anyone in this forum confirm if this information is true?

Thanks.

boon
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Nov 4, 2005, 7:29 PM

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Hi,

do u know the dam's name of the breeding in malaysia ? and do u know the dam is out of ? if not, u better figure it out before spread the so call rumors around...

AND YOUR POINT IS ?

Boon - I Love Fast Dogs That Hit Hard
You Ask Me To Fight For You, I Give You Freedom & Protection And Then You Question The Manner In Which I Provide It, I'd Rather You Just Said -- "Thank You" --

RealityDreamer
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Nov 4, 2005, 7:40 PM

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K9 mon,

Just because a pup is working line does not mean he does not hv high prey & food drive. What abt the serious Czech/Border Patrol dogs? Those are on the top of my list as real working dogs. Most do not have high prey drive.

That being said,a show dog can also have high prey & food drives.

Whoever spread the rumours do not know the dam.So no,it is not true.

P.S. The famous working kennel,von den jungen hansen uses show line dogs as well...but they have produced wonderful working dogs. There is a good example of this in our country.
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RealityDreamer
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Nov 4, 2005, 8:09 PM

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Sorry...typo error

"Just because a pup is working line does not mean he HAS high prey & food drive."

A note to add...there are also low food drive dogs who need to be fasted before doing tracking.
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leecy
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Nov 4, 2005, 8:56 PM

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RealityDreamer

May I know what is "prey drive" & "food drive"? Smile

Regards,

Yang

K9mon
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Nov 4, 2005, 9:40 PM

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Woh Boon, you don't have to be defensive here. I'm only here to learn more. Like I said its only a rumor and it might not be true. If you however have better facts, may be you can share with all the people in the forum to clear up some doubts. I would think that its more constructive this way. Cheers.

K9mon
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Nov 4, 2005, 10:12 PM

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Chloe,

Don't get me wrong here. We are talking about Schutzhund rite?

I would assume that you already know that a Schutzhund dog might not be a good protection dog or a police service dog.

If you are that kind of person who like the Czech working line then you are most likely to anticipate for dogs who have more defese and less of prey drive.

However, most sport people would prefer to have more prey drive than defense. It is easier to teach and control a dog. At least this is what I've learned.

At the end of everything that we have discussed it all depend on what you want from your dog. Its your choice.

For me my choice is to be a sport person, hence I'm looking for a dog who has a higher prey drive and food drive.

Ofcourse I would also like to see some fight drive from my dog for the protection phase which can slowly be developed from some civil work.

At the end we are all trying to learn from each other.

Like Boon I know that he knows something and I also believe most people here have access to some duplicated leerberg videos. So please don't sound like you know more... and if you are not willing to share then there are many other threads you can join.

Like I said rumors can only be rumors it might not be true so its up to you guys to say something. If its rite just say its rite and if its wrong then say its wrong. Haven't you learn that honesty is the best policy?

Btw Chloe thanks for your reply.

Cheers.

boon
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Nov 4, 2005, 10:19 PM

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hmm, i think u r right...mind to share some with me.. i really have no idea of what's what's...

Boon - I Love Fast Dogs That Hit Hard
You Ask Me To Fight For You, I Give You Freedom & Protection And Then You Question The Manner In Which I Provide It, I'd Rather You Just Said -- "Thank You" --

koolfang
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Nov 5, 2005, 1:39 AM

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hi k9mon,

to be honest, i'm in no position to comment on this particular line. to be frank i'm not an experience gsd handler. if u're talking about working gsd, personnaly i think boon and chloe can be a very big help here... boon and chloe are into chech working line... n i fancy that line too... juz that i cant afford. anyway in my opinion, there's not much different bwtween working and sport... its juz that they work in different condition/place/style... no matter how, they work too...

i'm not a pro to talk about temperament and drive... at the end of the day, it all depends on what u want in a dog... simple as that... that's why i'm into apbt...

- its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog...

koolfang
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Nov 5, 2005, 1:55 AM

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hi chloe,

how's axel doing...? i only got updates from mike on spike and only a little bit on titus... been bz lately... working even on the raya break... anyway, guess u're on the exam timetable now am rite... all the best then...

- its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog...

RealityDreamer
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Nov 5, 2005, 2:02 AM

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Hi K9mon,

It is not my intention to sound like I noe more. If that is so,I apologize Smile

This post/thread is also for other members who do not know as much as u do to learn as well.

Anyway,u r right. We are all here to learn.
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boon
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Nov 5, 2005, 9:23 AM

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I would assume that you already know that a Schutzhund dog might not be a good protection dog or a police service dog.

U just need to look harder of this type of dogs. I know is it not a norm, but they're plenty out there that can do both and excel in both. Look harder....do ur research, don't simply post without some real fact on hand.

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If you are that kind of person who like the Czech working line then you are most likely to anticipate for dogs who have more defese and less of prey drive.

I like what i see in a dog, not a specific lineage.....in czech, there are how many lines within ? do uu know, and ...........

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However, most sport people would prefer to have more prey drive than defense. It is easier to teach and control a dog. At least this is what I've learned.

Becareful on ur training method(s) and skill...don't end up the 'finish' no ' ED'

like what RUMORs call prey monster or lock in prey......

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Of course I would also like to see some fight drive from my dog for the protection phase which can slowly be developed from some civil work.

By the way do u have any idea and clear about what is prey/defence/fight ? Don't get confuse here mutt........this is a SUPER wrong and misleading statement....do u recognize one if u see a dog in fight ? or prey ? and u r telling me fight can be build up via training ?

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Like Boon I know that he knows something and I also believe most people here have access to some duplicated leerberg videos. So please don't sound like you know more... and if you are not willing to share then there are many other threads you can join.

my name is here...so i have to say something right ? hmmm i am an average k9 joe....just know enough to bathe my dogs....and...what else...oh yeah..feeding them....and may be clean after them...

U r plain stupid if by watching just videos and one can know and pretend to know it all kind of sutiation...go do ur own homework....i'm sorry if i offended anyone here...but i could think of a better way to put this...

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I also believe most people here have access to some duplicated leerberg videos.

Be very careful here, this statement will voilets the copyright of the IP owner....I'm not suprise if Ed will come after u or whoever that duplicated the videos (if any)...and I may drop him a mail about this....watch ur back mutt....

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GSD will not fight with dogs below their dignity.

Boon - I Love Fast Dogs That Hit Hard
You Ask Me To Fight For You, I Give You Freedom & Protection And Then You Question The Manner In Which I Provide It, I'd Rather You Just Said -- "Thank You" --

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koolfang
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Nov 5, 2005, 5:37 PM

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GSD will not fight with dogs below their dignity.

boon,

i'm attracted by your quote here... how can we determine a dog's dignity and which breed is below the gsd's dignity and which is higher (or is there any)...? of course gsd is considered a high class breed by lots of people, no doubt about that... so u are saying that a gsd will only fight another gsd...? i thought gsd was not bred to fight... aiyah...i got so many question eh... hope nobody feels offended with what i say here... apologies in advance...

- its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog...

koolfang
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Nov 5, 2005, 5:43 PM

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chloe,

is the new picture axel...? wow, he's growing up good... handsome kid... his ears all erected i see... spike's ears still half way rite...? that's what mike told me. no pictures from him yet...

- its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog...

leecy
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Nov 5, 2005, 9:00 PM

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K9mon

May I know what is "prey drive" & "food drive"? Smile

Regards,

Yang

RealityDreamer
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Nov 6, 2005, 1:40 AM

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lol

Dennis..he doesn't mean it that way Tongue

At least I hope not Crazy

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RealityDreamer
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Nov 6, 2005, 1:59 AM

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Prey drive= The dog's natural desire to chase & capture prey. Like how u play with a moving rage with ur dog and he chases it.

Food drve= desire for food. If a dog has high food drive,he is "wai sek" Laugh

Hope that helps.
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RealityDreamer
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Nov 6, 2005, 2:10 AM

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Hi Dennis,

Axel's doing great. Enjoying life being a puppy Wink

Yea,that is one of the more recent pics where he actually looks like a GSD Laugh

His ears arent all erected yet. In the pic he was moving around b4 that & his ears were slow to fall. Spikes ears are all erected & he looks adorable. Smile

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boon
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Nov 6, 2005, 8:21 AM

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GSD will not fight with dogs below their dignity.

unfortunately no, that's not what i meant !

Boon - I Love Fast Dogs That Hit Hard
You Ask Me To Fight For You, I Give You Freedom & Protection And Then You Question The Manner In Which I Provide It, I'd Rather You Just Said -- "Thank You" --

wildgunsr
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Nov 7, 2005, 11:06 PM

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Hello Kevin (correct me if I'm wrong),

That is true, Ellute is one of the more used producers in Germany. But only few repeat breedings afaik. To say he is "a better producer in Germany" leaves voids that can be arguementative. e.g. If you're comparing Ellute's mating and Eros' mating in Germany, obviously Ellute holds the record because of geographical reasons. But, like all breedings, not all combinations work, some would definitely be better than others. And vice versa, Eros is used for more breedings than ever now in Belgium, compared to Ellute's breeding in Belgium if any.

Assuming we're comparing regardless of location. It is hard to say how Eros is producing because, to my best of knowledge, his first progenies are below two years of age. And with all the talk on dogs maturing at different rates etc, i think, it would be rather immature to say Eros doesn't produce as good.

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Hi guys/gals,

I have heard about this great dog name Eros V. De Mohnwise which won 2 consecutive schutzhund world champion. Would like to find out if anyone knows more about this dog's blood line and history.

Also I have heard rumors that Eros's brother Elute is a better producer in Germany. Any idea?

I am guessing that the Germans use Elute more as a stud because it is easily accessable as compared to Eros since Eros is now in Belgium with Ron(something like that)?

Thanks.

wildgunsr
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Nov 7, 2005, 11:36 PM

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Hello K9mon,

Better stop listening to them rumours. Unless your source has tested each and every puppy individually or he *is* the breeder, I think he/she better keep his/her mouth shut. Besides, consistency is what all breeders strive for, I challenge anyone to find me a breeder who produces 9 puppies in a litter and says that they are all consistent. Ok la, I jest, maybe all 9 puppies consistently have four legs, a tail, two eyes, one muzzle, etc. But Malaysia also has dog with 6 legs and 3 dicks, so.....

I think one would be considered lucky to even have replicas of previous progenies in repeated litters. Unless we back our breedings by scientific data logging and research (like Guide Dogs for the blind), consistency will be, at best, a shot in the dark. Mind you, even with scientific data logging and research, Guide Dogs for the Blind had to change some of their breeding methods due to deteoration of the hips and this is from a facility that has managed to breed and raise 97% of their dogs for its intended purpose.

Furthermore, why do specifically mention prey and food drives? Appreciate it if you could enlighten us on why you find these drives essential for a working line and only average and below for a showline.

I've come across a showline boxer that is so high in prey and play drive you can slam, and I mean 4.5' of the ground slam, to the ground and it'll still jump right back up at ya and the food drive is none the lacking as well.

Perhaps you could elaborate further your statement "Rumors have said that the dam used might not be a full working line which might have affected the the litter's prey drive and food drive".

Like I said, you've gotta be careful of your source of rumours. Afterall if it's a rumour, be vary that some might have little tolerance to what essentially are unfounded statements.

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Polluxx
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Nov 8, 2005, 1:51 AM

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Hi All,

Wow ....back from holidays.....!!

K9mon,

Its nice to see another person on-board who r interested with ScH...!! But I think it is just not right/fair to comment on any person's puppies based on rumours even if it is in query form

. This type of query could be better handle thru email or PM. And furthermore, if I m not mistaken, the line is still very young over here .... I am sure nobody are able judge/comment on how good or bad the stud-dog or brood-bitch is based on just a few pups.

I think the problem we have here is , ppl who bought their puppy expect their puppy to turn out to be the ideal dog (Sch, PP or even guide dog's material), let me just say that's not gonna happen !!! Even the best producer will produce lousy stuff...!!! You can try to stack the odds in your favor with good research, testing & hope for the best. How the pup will turn out will depends not only on his genetic combination but its growing experience as well the environment he/she was nurture in.

Bottom line is make the best with whatever we have got, and try to learn from it hopefully after learning from our initial experience will make us a better owner/handler/trainer and also better prepared for the next pup and so forth.

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Like Boon I know that he knows something and I also believe most people here have access to some duplicated leerberg videos. So please don't sound like you know more... and if you are not willing to share then there are many other threads you can join

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I believe Boon is trying to tell U not to cont'd discussing sensitive matters over the public forum that's all. And to further insinuate that he has unauthorised access to a copyright material is totally uncalled for and very irresponsible of U.

Don't get me wrong here !! It is good that U r doing ur research by asking over here but maybe there is much better avenue than a public forum when asking but also commenting at the same time of a dog currently being used . . . . which I dun thk is the rite approach.

Regards...!!

"Show me your dog and I'll tell you what manner of man you are."
(GSD Founder - Capt Max V Stephanitz)

leecy
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Nov 8, 2005, 2:11 AM

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RealityDreamer

okok, thanks for spoon feeding me. Tongue

Regards,

Yang

KENDZ
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Nov 9, 2005, 8:50 AM

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Hi Guys,

Been awhile. How you all doing? Well I hope. Just popped in here today and glad to find there is still activity. Couldn't resist jumping in to discuss about Eros. No joke to achieve what he did. But physically Elute looks better, especially the croup area. But pasterns a little long....

. Sorry Conformation Kendz talking la....

So who has the Eros pups here in Malaysia?? Would be very interesting to see how they turn out.
Kendz
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boon
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Nov 9, 2005, 4:37 PM

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Hi Kendz,

Ah...if u google them dogs, u may of aware that Belgiums only breed or prioritise their mating for workability not beauty. No offend, but personally i have a feeling that most of their dogs is not for beauty pagent. or Urgly.

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Nov 9, 2005, 6:57 PM

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"I believe Boon is trying to tell U not to cont'd discussing sensitive matters over the public forum that's all. And to further insinuate that he has unauthorised access to a copyright material is totally uncalled for and very irresponsible of U.

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I second polluxx's opinion!!
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Nov 9, 2005, 7:00 PM

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Kendz,

Ur too kind abt it...

Eros is downright UGLY Tongue

As for the pups, 3-4 (mayb 5) of them went to SchH enthusiasts...so u will definitely see them training Wink

& u noe where.
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K9mon
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Nov 12, 2005, 3:24 AM

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Hi all,

Thank you for all your replies especially Wildgunsr and Pollux.

This is just my opinion about what a working dog should have.

Lets assume most working line dog have good nerve/temperament (which is why ppl buy a working line and not a show line)

And assuming all of us here are sport people (lets not talk about real protection work)

I would prefer to start with a higher prey drive and food drive puppy.

The reason is simply easier to train.

Lets not talk about the fight drive, to me it may only take up a small percentage in the protection phase (in the sport point of view). However, Don't get me wrong, it is what make a dog either good, better or best in the competition but I'm looking at a bigger picture i.e. the sch sport.

If you have better views you could chip in if you like.

RealityDreamer
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Nov 12, 2005, 4:34 AM

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Hi K9mon,

Glad ur taking this in a postivie way. Quite surprised to see wildgunsr spend time here Tongue

Anyway,I also think another big difference between show & working is their hardness. From what I was told,show lines (as u hv mentioned) also can hv good nerves but many many many lack hardness.

P.S. the dam's owner is a little disturbed by the rumour & invites whoever started the rumour to test her...
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Polluxx
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Nov 12, 2005, 6:37 AM

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K9mon,

I hope U understand where our concern is coming from ...!!

Now back to your recent post, first of all Chloe is rite in her remark that not all workingline GSD has good nerve neither is all showline GSD nervous creature (however IMO most if not all, the locally-bred 100%showline GSD def cannot do the work due to nerve/shyness/hardness problem).

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I would prefer to start with a higher prey drive and food drive puppy.

Personally, I believe as beginner, we should go for the slightly over-medium drv/hardness dogs but not the "over the top" or super drv/hard dogs . . . will be not be easy to handle. Trust me, they will not be easy to train, the situation can even be made worse if we read our dogs wrongly as they will not accept any instruction/correction given without putting up a fight if the ranking/bonding issue has not yet been resolved between the dog & the handler.

The reason for my above opinion is simply the 'easier to train (as U put it) not due to drv..... but rather due to lesser chance of conflicts and ease of bonding. I am of course assuming we r talking abt sports here as U mentioned and not abt breeding. Wink

The thing to note here in ScH Sports is, if U noticed the better dogs in ScH competition are always the "dogs with the best relationship wt his handler".

Just my 2 cents worth !!!

p/s : ""Hmm..... after clearing all misunderstanding here maybe....U should consider making peace wt our dear Booney as afterall he was acting in good faith""

"Show me your dog and I'll tell you what manner of man you are."
(GSD Founder - Capt Max V Stephanitz)

(This post was edited by Polluxx on Nov 12, 2005, 7:04 AM)

Polluxx
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Nov 12, 2005, 6:53 AM

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Hey Chloe,

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Eros is downright UGLY Tongue

. . . given a chance , I take him anytime

. . . !!!

"Show me your dog and I'll tell you what manner of man you are."
(GSD Founder - Capt Max V Stephanitz)

wildgunsr
Dog Kichi

Nov 12, 2005, 6:02 PM

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Eros hansum la!!! Some ppl just don't know how to appreciate Tongue

.

Tht's why I still Dog Kichi. I came here because of this hot topic mahhh.

Our SchH society is soooooooo "kichi" tht we should be a lil bit more cautious with statements/actions, etc. Afterall, we don't wanna be fighting/irreconcileable differences, haha, even before we start, right?

I've been in forums for a long time, and the trend is somebody says something, and a few finds it unfounded, everybody gets emotional because they're passionate about what they believe in. Then words are misinterpreted, or are intended with malice. Worst of, it's a forum, we all hide behind a nick, well some of us do noe each other pretty well, but nonetheless expression and intonation of the face and voice is lost. What can be a harmless question/statement can bring on the wrath of another for e.g.....

WHAT YOU MEAN "EROS IS DOWNRIGHT UGLY"???? watch your mouth woman!!he's as hansum-est as eva!!! Long live EROS, Long Live EROS! but his brother Ellute and Gringo LAGI hansum. mwahaha Tongue

*the unker has spoken* - pls dun flame.

tanjewverymuch.

*i'm spending WAY too much time here* huargh.

RealityDreamer
Doggyman

Nov 12, 2005, 8:25 PM

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"but his brother Ellute and Gringo LAGI hansum. mwahaha"

HA!!

ok ok..my bad,let me rephrase..he is beautiful..but *looks* not so beautiful Tongue

M not complaining but just saying. His working ability is without a doubt gorgeous. Just look at his tracking & protection work. Wink

sides..who's saying *i* dunno to appreciate...coming frm a person who likes big blocky headed ddr/czech dogs n boxers!? (ick)
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wildgunsr
Dog Kichi

Nov 12, 2005, 8:40 PM

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You got a prob with big blocky head czech/ddr and boxers????

lol. kenot compare la your w.de/belgium dogs with ddr/czech...not fair la this comparison. it's like comparing ben affleck with me. Tongue

. Both beautiful in their own right....of course, more women would rather sleep with ben "gay boy" affleck. Tongue

(This post was edited by wildgunsr on Nov 12, 2005, 8:45 PM)

K9mon
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Nov 20, 2005, 1:43 AM

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Hi all! I am glad that now that you guys think I don't come with evil intentions or malice. However, I do appreciate what you guys have wrote, and as I said before, I am here to learn as anyone else.

As for the rumour, it was a rumour, and I apologized for causing any concerns. So far, a few people have been giving really positive and constructive comments and I will, of course, take it graciously. However, if asked to make peace with Booney here.... I came in 'peace' and if I had offended anyone, he could have told me constructively and positively. I don't appreciate him using 'labels' on me, such as mutt or stupid. So far, I have not even used any unecessary labels. Although I have not said it earlier, it has not been fair to me, too. When he reacted so intensely, it only makes the rumour even better to believe!

So again, thanks again for everyone's comments and I will continue to contribute my two cents worth as well, even if it might not be helpful to anyone. And I will continue to be as passionate to my hobby.

Cheers, people!

wildgunsr
Dog Kichi

Nov 21, 2005, 12:34 AM

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dear k9mon,

Mind sharing some info like where you're based at? what dog from what bloodline you have? and are you training with any group? if you would rather share this info privately, i can be reached at wildgunsr@puppy.com.my

PSD
ALPHA

Jun 27, 2006, 12:44 AM

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K9Mon,

Stay cool friend. Dogworld is so small and yet there is so much tension. Working dog world is even smaller and we could use another good friend. Focus the aggression on the bogey would be great. I agree with you that we should all contribute in a positive way. Cheers

PSD

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"Take this trouble for me:
Make sure my shepherd dog remains a working dog, for I have struggled all my life long for that aim ."

Rittmeister Capt. Max von Stephanitz (1864-1936)

boon
Doggyman

Jun 27, 2006, 9:23 PM

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Aiks...hijacker....

Arrr everyone now at least know that you're still alive.....I got a call from our friend in UK yesterday evening right after your call to him

Boon - I Love Fast Dogs That Hit Hard
You Ask Me To Fight For You, I Give You Freedom & Protection And Then You Question The Manner In Which I Provide It, I'd Rather You Just Said -- "Thank You" --