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Kevin Chuan
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Jun 2, 2004, 3:28 AM

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Hi There, I'm a new user here. I have came across with a Australian who works in RAAF (Royal Austria Air Force) who stays in Penang owns 5 BT. He has transfered back to Aust last year, and I heard he gave all his bullys to his friend staying around his taman. I have seen one of his bully in bindle colour. In fact I can help you to check whether is there still any puppy bull available.


crazymouse_yyh
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Jun 2, 2004, 5:54 AM

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Hey, I just saw the classifieds today, there is a pair of mini BTs for sale....... Look in today's Star newspaper!


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crazymouse_yyh
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Jun 2, 2004, 6:03 AM

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Haha... so I see I'm not the only one that calls them little pigs..., especially white ones, they look so piggie and cowie hahaha....

I know, I read in a book that BTs are one man dog in one dog house hahaha... pity, I'd love to have a BT.....Unsure

Read the Star classifieds today? Got 2 mini BTs for sale.....


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boon
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Jun 2, 2004, 7:30 AM

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Hi,

Thanz for sharing, yeah pls do check the availability of te bully.

Thanz in advance

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kc1356
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Jun 2, 2004, 5:20 PM

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Hi Kevin,

Thanks for sharing with us, the BT maniacs!Smile
If you can find out the contact number or address, I don't mind driving all the way up north to get see the bully. Hope the 5 BTs has a good owner who can take care of them for now ....i'm bit worried, five in one house Unsure


Vince7
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Jun 2, 2004, 6:32 PM

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Hi there Kevin, welcome to the forum.

Yes, please find out for us the availability of the bullies (wow! 5 bullies in a house?). We hope they all find themselves in good homes. If not, I'm sure we all will gladly help, hehe. I wonder why the owner didn't take them back to AUS? hmm, a man's lost is another's gain, i guess.

By the way, which part of Penang is it? I'm from Penang also, but now working in KL la. Missed the food still...

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Kevin Chuan
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Jun 3, 2004, 2:36 AM

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Hi Vince7... If I'm not misstaken he gave all his 5 bullies to 5 different owners, some of the new owner is RAAF, some is Indian friend. He use to stay in Tanjung Bungah near TAR Collage. After that he moved to Hill Side, I get to see one of his bullies in my friend house when his neighbor brought his new adopted bully to his house. It is bindle in colour, and he told me that the other 4 bullies are now in different places, but I guess it should be some where around Tanjung Bungah or Hill side.

Will let you know as soon as I get the contact number, but one thing I'm very sure is all the 5 bullies are brothers and sisters.


kc1356
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Jun 9, 2004, 6:59 PM

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Hi Kevin! You still there??Smile I saw an ad at the star again about ABPT for RM700. Have you seen it?
http://classifieds.thestar.com.my/...page=1&code=0000

Manage to get any contact number for the bullies heheheh! Very desperate lah!


Kevin Chuan
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Jun 9, 2004, 7:36 PM

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HI KC,

Thanks, I saw that... but what I want is American Staffordshire Terrier. I call that guy already... his name is Ronnie he only breed APBT.

Anyway, I went to see a BullMastiff puppy last week, female brindle in colour very active and healthy, he is asking for RM1800.00, expensive or not? But still AMStaff is still my first priority. hehehe.

See you and thanks again.


kc1356
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Jun 10, 2004, 1:03 AM

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Hey Kevin, good to hear from u again. BullMastiff is big size doggy u know?! Atleast twice the size of Staffy. Are you sure you want it? But I think they are very good guard dog. It is said BullMastiff, in act of defence, like to throw the bad guys down and press by standing on them instead of biting. Not sure how true is that though.

I am not a dog expert and certainly not able to comment about the price. It is also the one thing i really like to know is, on what basis is the price of the dog base on in M'sia? Market demand, size, breed background, pedigree, training, registered, show type, toy, guard and watch dog type?? Maybe someone would like to shed some lights and give some ideasUnsure

Did you balik kampung last weekend?? I might switch my pref. to APBT since is EBT closest relative and it is available now. But still want to hear from your good news first!Wink


kc1356
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Jun 10, 2004, 1:19 AM

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And by the way Kevin, you said you want a Staffy and not ABPT. Can you actaully tell the differences?? I think even Americans would not be able to recognise which is which (to many cross breeding). The AKC, UKC or what ever can't even establish a different standards for the breed. If you do know what you are looking for please enlighten me so that when ask Ronnie for a APBT, he don't give me a StaffySmile Thanks!


Kevin Chuan
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Jun 10, 2004, 10:49 PM

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Hey KC... I study a lot on APBT, AmStaff, AmStaff Bull Terrier and lots of rare breed even can't get in our country. Infact M'sia only band APBT, Amstaff, Tosa Inu, Akita Inu, Bull Terrier, Dogo Argentino and their cross breeds only. Breed like Dobbermann, BullMastiff, French Mastiff(Dogue De Bordeaux), and Rotty are restricted breed for importation. APBT was initially breed for dog fighting purposes, but it is a very good dog if you trained it right. They are slightly larger than AmStaff and ASBT, Amstaff are usually have a shorter square face, and shorter legs. That you can easily observe when it is still puppy. If it is an adult, pit bull will be more aggressive with other dogs compare with Amstaff, APBT has a longger legs and a longer square face. Amstaff is a breed that loves children very much, you can actually leave the dog playing with your children or even leaves them at home alone, they are much more stable than APBT and yet it is one of a best guard dog in the world.

Rare breeds that can't even found in Malaysia, and also under Guard Dog group are:

Brasillian Mastiff (Fila Brasileiro), American Bandogge, Presa Canario, Bully Kutta, Caucasian Ovtcharka, Spanish Alano, Cane Corso, Mallorquin Bulldog (Ca De Bou), Gul Dong, Guatemalan Bull Terrier, Indian Bull Terrier, and lots more. But most of the kennal club DID NOT reconized these breed, may be they have been misstaken to class them under fighting dogs... I'm not sure. Anyway these dogs are very rare even in US, UK and Australia, but not so suitable for those who has children and other pets at home. Huge size, Fear looking (maybe ugly), strong, faithful, and other positive characeristic are these breeds character.

Huh..., I will try to import some of these breed before M'sia band them. I'm serious I'm sure in the future there will be lots of dog lovers would like to own these dogs.

Last week I did not go home because I have to go for a wedding dinner, will go home this weekend.






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kc1356
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Jun 11, 2004, 1:32 AM

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ShockedShockedShocked Finally...a true doggy ambassador come along!! Kevin I fully support your idea of importing rare breeds before they are band. Dogs are lovely creatures, what ever the breed is they should not go extinct. If only I have the ability and money to, I'll go hand in hand with you!Unsure

About APBT, American Staffordshire Terrier and Staffordshire Terrier (UK) they are families. What I know is the former two is bred from the Staffordshire Terrier (UK) (the grandfather; short and small size). Between APBT (grandson; 14-22") and AST (grandson conform to show std- short 14-18") genetically, both are the same....they are what they are because the paper and cert say so. Which is to say, an AST is also a APBT but an APBT is not necessary an AST....i'm confuse r u hehhehhhe! That is why some AST is dual registered as an APBT as well. You can find AST bigger and taller size than APBT, I don't think there is a real way to tell not even thro gameness!

Anyway our JABATAN PERHIKDMATAN MALAYSIA band all three of them simply because of their high level of mentality: "to be on the safe side" wah lau I really respect them that much Laugh


Kevin Chuan
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Jun 11, 2004, 9:05 AM

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hey KC... Sometimes we should accept that we are staying in m'sia... dogs are "haram" to Islamic... maybe they know nothing about dogs... I guess so??? I feel they should allow these breeds to come in to m'sia but with a special condition which people that like to own these dogs should apply for license and legal action will be taken on those who didn't... what do you think?

It is very expensive to import a dog... expecially rare breed. A pair of Fila Brasillino will easily cost you US$6000.00 excluding of shippment charges, and I don't know whether our custom will stop them at the entry point or not??? But seriously... I will find a way to bring in at least 1 or 2 breed that I mentioned earlier... check it out by typing the breeds name thru Google and I'm sure you will fall in love with them....


kc1356
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Jun 11, 2004, 5:48 PM

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Yeah I know we are staying in an Islamic country but doesn't make sense just bcos is "haram" to band a particular breed of dogs. I don't see them to band all dogs from the country. They have come to their senses that we are a multi-national country and I do believe M'sia do employ dogs in the army and police force right? There are non-islam to handle the task even in JPH. Is just that, they (JPH) never took the time & trouble to understand the breeds or should I say-couldn't care less attitude.

As for the license thing doesn't mean anything base on that u can train a person to be a driver by taking a driving license but how can you train the owner to be a master of his dog...too subjective cos the dog will normally reflect its owner personalities not any particular training. It is also the same as asking the parents to get a license before they can get kids and if their kids get into trouble later, both the parents will bear all responsibility. Apart from that, setting up another department to issue and control dog licenses will only give a new oppurtunity for the government to make extra money from non-islamic people...you better think twice and think hard.

About Fila, again I must say you have great taste for big dog. The custom will stop what ever that comes into to our country thats for sure and for animals they will be a probation period even if you import a kampung or stray dogs. But due to their lack of knowledge in the breed or couldn't care less attitude, I doubt they will ever know the kind of breed that u r bringin in. On the other hand, I think they will be interested in your pocket rather than the puppy Laugh...lets hope not!! US$6000 KEVIN!! You must be very rich!!-says our custom officer!


Vince7
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Jun 11, 2004, 9:24 PM

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YOU KNOW YOUR A BULLIE OWNER IF:
1. YOU ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT HUCKEL BUCKING MEANS
2. DID HE POOP TODAY ? and WHAT DID IT LOOK LIKE? ARE EVERYDAY DISCUSSIONS IN YOUR HOUSE.
3. THAT $120.00 DOLLAR PAIR OF SHOES DIDN'T MEAN THAT MUCH TO YOU.(Although you would have killed any human who even put a scratch on them.)
4. THE NOTION OF A 70 LB. DOG IN YOUR BED ISN'T IN THE LEAST ODD.
5. THE EVIL VACCUM CLEANER HAS BEEN DESTROYED and the new one is hidden.
6. YOU HAVE A DESIGN LAYOUT FOR SEATING COMPANY THAT CLEARS THE PATH FOR HUCKEL BUCKING.
7. ALTHOUGH YOU DON'T HAVE A 3 YEAR OLD , YOUR HOUSE LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE ATLEAST 2. (And thats when its clean)
8. THE SIGHT OF A 70 LB DOG ON YOUR KITCHEN TABLE ISNT UNHEARD OF.
9. PRIOR TO OWNING A BULLIE WHEN CALLING HOME IT WAS "HELLO HUN, HOW ARE YOU TODAY." NOW IT'S "HELLO HUN, HOWS THE DOG? DID HE POOP TODAY" THEN "HOW ARE YOU AND THE CHILDREN"Tongue

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Kevin Chuan
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Jun 11, 2004, 10:35 PM

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Hey KC... This is m'sia... hehehe

To keep or to own a pet example monkeys, snakes, and certain wild animals require a license. It only cost about RM15.00 a year. I was thinking they should allow these breed in m'sia and the owner should apply for license for these breeds. Just like keeping Piranars, to own these Killer Fishes, you need to apply for lisence(RM55.00/year), and the rules and conditions is when changing the water for these fishes THE WATER MUST NOT GOES INTO THE DRAIN, and the maximum of fishes per license is only 3 allowed, the aquarium must not more than 3 feet(L) x 20 inches(D) x 15 inches(W) and some more.

May be they should allow these breed to come in to m'sia... as a breeder for these breeds the cost for the lisence should be highier than just keeping 1 as a pet. What do you think? hehehe. Anyway... I don't think it will works.

I love huge dogs, I'm planning to get 2 BullMastiff and 2 Amstaff this year. Help me to keep an eye on the Amstaff. I just booked 1 female with a breeder, he said his Amstaff is pure breed. Anyway, before I make the payment I will go to Kuala Selangor to see the parents whether they are pure breed or not.


Bull Lover
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Jun 14, 2004, 11:45 PM

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hi!!

i didn't read all the post in here, anyway did u found anyone with bull terrier?

one of my friend have 1 b4, but oledi past away few years back.. he is really really loyalty and loving to his owner.. his name ah boy.... ah boy is really smart many ppl think he is very fierce, but for me he maybe fierce if his own is not around or ask to attack! if his owner is here, he is real cool... ah boy is geeting blind when he get old.. even he canot see.. he still reconised me... although i am not his owner, he just treat me like his owner..maybe i love him like he is mine too... he is soooo gentle to us...

i don't know its so hard to get a bull terrier in m'sia, ah boy is given to my friend from his uncle.. he really looks like the 'ga you jin gou' dog, only 1 eye black.. very cute!!! we r soo sad when ah boy pass away..


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Vince7
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Jun 15, 2004, 2:21 AM

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Hello Bull Lover, I must say you've got a lovely bull dog there... very cute. Well, I haven't actually found anyone with a bull terrier yet! I know that there are some bullies out there but I haven't got the chance to know them & their owner...yet.

So, you've actually met a bull terrier before. That's great! I'm really dying to see a live bully, you know. I've never even touch a bully before (I think kc1356 also)!

Yeah, BTs are very loyal to their owners. Once they get to know you, there can be very sweet. I bet Ah Boy must be a very adorable bully. A white BT with a black eye patch is very rare indeed. & very expensive also. I hope Ah Boy is healthy & happy in the rainbow bridge.

As far as I know, BTs have quite a few weakness in their gene. Mostly they are prone to deafness, kidney problem & sensitive skin. Other than that, they are really as strong as a bull!

Hopefully, one of us will get a bully soon...

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rufferto
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Jun 15, 2004, 5:38 AM

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hi vince7...we also happen to be interested in miniature bull terriers...you mentioned that you may know of where & who to get them fr??? & that you can post the pix??? wld u b able 2 help???

thx very much


Bull Lover
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Jun 15, 2004, 2:47 PM

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halo!! now i only know u r the one who reply me in the papillon and silky ya!! thx again!

hmmm.... ah boy was very healty at that time... they r quite healty one... i really canot found any words to say how good he is....

actually i thought if i canot get taro.. i will look for the bull terrier too.... but taro is my 1st choice.. becuase they r really friendly and gentle... the problem of having a bull terrier for me is .. he is a sporting one.. i don't think i have enought time to burn all his anergy... taro is abit lazy... play for 1-2 hours.. oledi tired... hehehe Tongue

but if there is any change... i will get a BT.... let me know when u get one ya! u want to see the pic of ah boy? hmm i try to ask my friend if he keep some.. then i scane it! heheh...


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Kevin Chuan
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Jun 15, 2004, 8:39 PM

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Hi Vince,

I went back to my mom's house last week end, I have spoke to the Indian BT owner regarding the other adopted BT, he was not sure where the others gone... but he will help me to keep an eye on it...

He is actually looking for a mate for his Bully... a male Bully... But after I saw his bully last week, I found that it is sick... what else... the usual skin problems bully had. I gave him some antibiotic for ChaCha (his Bully's name) hope she will get well soon.

Ok, will let you guys from Penang know when he found the others bully... (I think they should be at around Tanjung Bungah, Hill Side or Batu Ferringhi area)

Hey, found any AmStaff news recently? Please help... Thanks.


Vince7
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Jun 15, 2004, 8:45 PM

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Hello rufferto, I did have some pix from a breeder but I accidentally deleted it.Frown But you can email him at sogreatbull@hotmail.com Mind you, he's from Thailand though. He's got some champion BTs but I find the price is too high for me.

Other options are :
1) call MKA & ask for breeders' contact
2) saw some ads on the star about a pair of adult mini BT
3) go to a pet shop & ask order from them
4) some of us are also in the search for BTs/ mini BTs, will update you if we get new info

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Vince7
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Jun 15, 2004, 9:05 PM

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Yup that's me who replied your post but not much help lah, cause I only know more about Bull Terrors.

You're right that BTs are full of energy! Our old bones will not stand to their daily activities. Better if got 2 or 3 people to tired them down. Only then you can get peace in your home.

Please do send me a copy of Ah Boy's pics if you manage to get it. I have a habit of collecting bully pics. Now i think i have hundreds of them mostly from the web. Thanks.

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Vince7
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Jun 15, 2004, 9:36 PM

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hi Kevin, thank you for taking the trouble to update us on the bullies in Penang. So ChaCha is looking for a mate now eh? Too bad I have no idea about any existing bullies in Penang. Any chance Boon might know? Otherwise, I think I saw an ad about an adult BT for sale in the Star no too long ago.

How is the skin problem ChaCha has? Any idea what caused it? Itchy skin or sun burn perhaps? Yeah, hope she'll get well soon.

I have no news of AmStaff at the moment. But I'll keep an eye for you. So when are you going to see the AmStaff in Kuala Selangor?

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